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My first table (Hogan's Heroes)
Started By
PainkillerAlice
, Nov 15 2009 11:13 PM
366 replies to this topic
#22
Posted 03 January 2010 - 11:48 PM
Got done with a HUGE project for a customer, so now I can resume working on my table. Having a horrible time of trying to rip the audio off my dvd's so I can select the audio clips to use on the table. Adobe Audition is what I use for audio editing but it doesn't recognize ac3 format. Using DVD Decrypter to extract the audio to ac3 , but that is as far as I got on this endeavor. Any suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance!
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#23
Posted 04 January 2010 - 12:05 AM
QUOTE (Practicedummy @ Jan 4 2010, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got done with a HUGE project for a customer, so now I can resume working on my table. Having a horrible time of trying to rip the audio off my dvd's so I can select the audio clips to use on the table. Adobe Audition is what I use for audio editing but it doesn't recognize ac3 format. Using DVD Decrypter to extract the audio to ac3 , but that is as far as I got on this endeavor. Any suggestions are most welcome. Thanks in advance! 
Why don't you record the music.
Try with this one. It is freeware, and you can record the music in good quality.
AUDACITY
I hope this help you out.
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#24
Posted 04 January 2010 - 12:25 AM
I will do that. I do have audacity and it's one of the programs I use for converting vinyl and audio cassettes to cd. Now the thing is is figuring out how to rig things up so I can record the audio.Thanks for the input Robert!
Edited by Practicedummy, 04 January 2010 - 12:25 AM.
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#25
Posted 04 January 2010 - 01:42 AM
QUOTE (Practicedummy @ Jan 3 2010, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will do that. I do have audacity and it's one of the programs I use for converting vinyl and audio cassettes to cd. Now the thing is is figuring out how to rig things up so I can record the audio.Thanks for the input Robert! 
Just discovered how to record the audio if it works, I have a mode on my tv called monitor out. It allows for a second tv to display video and audio from the same source. Am going to hook up from that to my sound card and see if that works. Also I can watch Hogan's Heroes while the audio records.
Edited by Practicedummy, 04 January 2010 - 01:43 AM.
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#26
Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:39 PM
QUOTE (Practicedummy @ Jan 3 2010, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Practicedummy @ Jan 3 2010, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will do that. I do have audacity and it's one of the programs I use for converting vinyl and audio cassettes to cd. Now the thing is is figuring out how to rig things up so I can record the audio.Thanks for the input Robert! 
Just discovered how to record the audio if it works, I have a mode on my tv called monitor out. It allows for a second tv to display video and audio from the same source. Am going to hook up from that to my sound card and see if that works. Also I can watch Hogan's Heroes while the audio records.
Got the rig job to work! Now I get to spend a couple dozen hours or so recording the audio clips for me table. Ahhhhhh the things I do for pinball!
I could have been smart, but I never learned anything by being smart!
#28
Posted 05 January 2010 - 08:57 PM
Starting to do some graphical work on the table, but having a problem creating the image for use on the circular targets (some of the main playfield targets and one of the mini playfield's targets will be made with circular targets). Wanting to use the pic of a bullet upright for the circular targets but don't have the knowledge to create the image correctly for the project. Am currently using Paint.net to attempt the task.
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#29
Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:27 AM
Ugh. Image editing has more to it than meets the eye! When I tried to apply the bullet image I had to one of the targets, I only get a solid color on the side. And probably something to note, I haven't been able to make it into a circular image (for the circular targets) to save and then use on my table, I am either pretty ignorant or artistically challenged.
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#30
Posted 06 January 2010 - 02:56 AM
Hey Practicedummy,
If you take a look at the last few posts in the 90's workshop, I made mention of the proper setting of "Auto-texture" co-ordinates on the "points" of a wall to make the image appear properly. Keep in mind that the image appears on the SIDE of the wall and not the top of the wall that makes up the target. Just look at a finished table and then highlight all of the "points" that make up the target wall to see the "auto-texture" co-ordinate settings.
90's workshop - auto-texture co-ordinates pics
Best Regards,
Todd.
If you take a look at the last few posts in the 90's workshop, I made mention of the proper setting of "Auto-texture" co-ordinates on the "points" of a wall to make the image appear properly. Keep in mind that the image appears on the SIDE of the wall and not the top of the wall that makes up the target. Just look at a finished table and then highlight all of the "points" that make up the target wall to see the "auto-texture" co-ordinate settings.
90's workshop - auto-texture co-ordinates pics
Best Regards,
Todd.
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- It's called "The American Dream" because you have to be asleep to believe it.
George Carlin
- Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence.
Henrik Tikkanen
- "Reality check, Michelle, Talk about composure, Total lack of. He's a man-- About-- 12 Feet Tall--"
Carrie Kelly
#31
Posted 06 January 2010 - 03:23 AM
QUOTE (kruge99 @ Jan 5 2010, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Practicedummy,
If you take a look at the last few posts in the 90's workshop, I made mention of the proper setting of "Auto-texture" co-ordinates on the "points" of a wall to make the image appear properly. Keep in mind that the image appears on the SIDE of the wall and not the top of the wall that makes up the target. Just look at a finished table and then highlight all of the "points" that make up the target wall to see the "auto-texture" co-ordinate settings.
90's workshop - auto-texture co-ordinates pics
Best Regards,
Todd.
If you take a look at the last few posts in the 90's workshop, I made mention of the proper setting of "Auto-texture" co-ordinates on the "points" of a wall to make the image appear properly. Keep in mind that the image appears on the SIDE of the wall and not the top of the wall that makes up the target. Just look at a finished table and then highlight all of the "points" that make up the target wall to see the "auto-texture" co-ordinate settings.
90's workshop - auto-texture co-ordinates pics
Best Regards,
Todd.
Cool! Thanks for the link and input. I'll check it out.
I could have been smart, but I never learned anything by being smart!
#32
Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:51 PM
QUOTE (Bob5453 @ Nov 19 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Practicedummy @ Nov 19 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a scripting question. I have kickers that I am using as scoops. When I shoot the ball into the kicker, I want to have a 3 second delay before the ball is kicked out. I have put timers on the table and set them for 3 seconds (3000 on the timer interval) and just need to know how to script the kicker to activate the timer and script the timer to kick the ball out of the kicker after the interval has passed.
Demo attached.... Ball goes into kicker and 3 seconds later is kicked out. I used the Kickers Timer, set at Timer Interval of 3000 and the box is not checked as that just makes the timer run at table initiation.
Hi Bob5453!
Could you help me please? I tried to use more than one kicker. Simply the second, third, fourth Kickers didn't work. The ball stucks on this kickers, except in the first. I used the same lines of your 3 seconds script, obviously changing the numbers of the kickers (Kicker1, Kicker2, kicker3, etc). What's my mistake?
Thanks a lot!

Big Thanks to my friend Hassanchop for this very nice dmd.
#33
Posted 07 January 2010 - 06:51 AM
QUOTE (billyrjse @ Jan 6 2010, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Bob5453 @ Nov 19 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Practicedummy @ Nov 19 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a scripting question. I have kickers that I am using as scoops. When I shoot the ball into the kicker, I want to have a 3 second delay before the ball is kicked out. I have put timers on the table and set them for 3 seconds (3000 on the timer interval) and just need to know how to script the kicker to activate the timer and script the timer to kick the ball out of the kicker after the interval has passed.
Demo attached.... Ball goes into kicker and 3 seconds later is kicked out. I used the Kickers Timer, set at Timer Interval of 3000 and the box is not checked as that just makes the timer run at table initiation.
Hi Bob5453!
Could you help me please? I tried to use more than one kicker. Simply the second, third, fourth Kickers didn't work. The ball stucks on this kickers, except in the first. I used the same lines of your 3 seconds script, obviously changing the numbers of the kickers (Kicker1, Kicker2, kicker3, etc). What's my mistake?
Thanks a lot!
Without seeing the code (script) you've actually used, I doubt anyone can tell you what mistakes you've made.
Post the script lines up here & I/we'll have a look at it.
Regards,
Dan.
A wizard only needs one ball...but can handle six.
#34
Posted 07 January 2010 - 04:10 PM
QUOTE (Wizards_Hat @ Jan 7 2010, 04:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (billyrjse @ Jan 6 2010, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Bob5453 @ Nov 19 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Practicedummy @ Nov 19 2009, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a scripting question. I have kickers that I am using as scoops. When I shoot the ball into the kicker, I want to have a 3 second delay before the ball is kicked out. I have put timers on the table and set them for 3 seconds (3000 on the timer interval) and just need to know how to script the kicker to activate the timer and script the timer to kick the ball out of the kicker after the interval has passed.
Demo attached.... Ball goes into kicker and 3 seconds later is kicked out. I used the Kickers Timer, set at Timer Interval of 3000 and the box is not checked as that just makes the timer run at table initiation.
Hi Bob5453!
Could you help me please? I tried to use more than one kicker. Simply the second, third, fourth Kickers didn't work. The ball stucks on this kickers, except in the first. I used the same lines of your 3 seconds script, obviously changing the numbers of the kickers (Kicker1, Kicker2, kicker3, etc). What's my mistake?
Thanks a lot!
Without seeing the code (script) you've actually used, I doubt anyone can tell you what mistakes you've made.
Post the script lines up here & I/we'll have a look at it.
Regards,
Dan.
Ok Dan,
As I don’t have any experience in programming. I used several lines of script tutorials. It was a “patchwork quilt”… an expression that we use here when something is fully patched. So, some things worked partially on the table (but not exactly as I wanted) and others didn’t. I'm even embarrassed to post something so ugly here.
Thank you!
Regards,
Marcelo
Edited by billyrjse, 07 January 2010 - 04:25 PM.

Big Thanks to my friend Hassanchop for this very nice dmd.
#35
Posted 07 January 2010 - 09:33 PM
QUOTE (billyrjse @ Jan 7 2010, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok Dan,
As I don’t have any experience in programming. I used several lines of script tutorials. It was a “patchwork quilt”… an expression that we use here when something is fully patched. So, some things worked partially on the table (but not exactly as I wanted) and others didn’t. I'm even embarrassed to post something so ugly here.
I thought it would be better if I send explanatory drawings what I intend to do on the table. Can I PM you or e-mail you?
Thank you!
Regards,
Marcelo
As I don’t have any experience in programming. I used several lines of script tutorials. It was a “patchwork quilt”… an expression that we use here when something is fully patched. So, some things worked partially on the table (but not exactly as I wanted) and others didn’t. I'm even embarrassed to post something so ugly here.
Thank you!
Regards,
Marcelo
LOL - patchwork scripting is acceptable...most people use what others have done & stuff it into their scripts at some point, especially when they're just starting out (no point in trying to re-invent the wheel).
...but sure, send me a PM if you like
Regards,
Dan.
A wizard only needs one ball...but can handle six.
#36
Posted 20 January 2010 - 09:49 PM

Since I got done with that huge project I was working on, I was able to get back to work on my table. Been studying the techniques on the 90's workshop thread, and for the posts, have been studying JP Salas' Jokerz table and TRYING (mediocre success so far
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#37
Posted 20 January 2010 - 10:48 PM
aah sling posts! here are a few! just go into the color editor part and change all of them to whatever color you like I keep a demo table full of colored rubbers and posts so for each table there it is without having to make each one from scratch each time! so here are a few to get you started with a pic of what's in the zip file. that wall around the top of the sling is for a 'transparent' plastic. if you make one slightly smaller than that wall, it'll look like a real plastic since real ones aren't colored right to the edge but rather have a clear strip at the very edge of them! BTW yer welcome make good use of them 
ooh don't forget the lockbar at the foot of the table check elsewhere on this site for my upload of the zip file of side and lockbar images
that second image is a pic of MY demo table I keep for reference. it is chock full of stuff I have made for various pins, this is where I keep all custom colored stuff so just in case I need it again, there it is.
ooh don't forget the lockbar at the foot of the table check elsewhere on this site for my upload of the zip file of side and lockbar images
that second image is a pic of MY demo table I keep for reference. it is chock full of stuff I have made for various pins, this is where I keep all custom colored stuff so just in case I need it again, there it is.
Attached Files
Edited by faralos, 20 January 2010 - 10:59 PM.
"Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice.
And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.”
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#38
Posted 20 January 2010 - 11:04 PM
oh and an aside to patchwork scripting, I do it all the time especially on the 'start table and scoring' coding! why rewrite it all the time for each pin I make? I just copy and paste the needed coding into each and every original pin I make to cut down on time. Now that I understand coding better I can do just that, again I have a demo 'start' table with a custom plunger (with recoil) and the start and add scoring code all built into it, so when I need to start a new pin I just copy my 'skeleton' table for starters then can relax knowing all that's taken care of so I have only to make the custom stuff and not worry about all that standard crap 'cause there it is all in already.
"Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice.
And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.”
----Steve Jobs
And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.”
----Steve Jobs
#39
Posted 20 January 2010 - 11:35 PM
metal images you say? did ya' ever try googling 'metal images' or 'to be more specific, "diamond plate' or stainless steel? all these will bring up TONS of metal images that is how I get stuff whether it be metal or wood or even sounds just ask google
"Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice.
And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.”
----Steve Jobs
And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.”
----Steve Jobs
#40
Posted 21 January 2010 - 12:00 AM
QUOTE (faralos @ Jan 20 2010, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
metal images you say? did ya' ever try googling 'metal images' or 'to be more specific, "diamond plate' or stainless steel? all these will bring up TONS of metal images that is how I get stuff whether it be metal or wood or even sounds just ask google
Haven't had to worry about metal images too much as of yet. Robert Kundrat had guided me to a few and got a few from the 90's workshop.
How can I copy the slingshot posts from one table to another or is that possible? I think I tried this before without success.
Edited by Practicedummy, 21 January 2010 - 12:00 AM.
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