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#21 bladexdsl

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 12:53 PM

holy hell this sends my cab into a stutter frenzy! must be the 3d Ferris wheel tongue.gif

Edited by bladexdsl, 13 October 2011 - 01:23 PM.


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Posted 13 October 2011 - 01:14 PM

Hi Rosve, when I start this table or Time Machine the Backglasses are very dark, and I can't apreciate the Backglass until I start the game and the lights are on. It's possible to add more Brightneess at the Backglass?
Thanks your job is amazing! I love the Wheel!

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 05:23 PM

two questions...



1 i am using the newer scared stiff b2s.. maybe root of my problem


The solid state points/ dmd isnt working.

I tried both the 3rd monitor and the 2nd. nothing. also getting an error in line

End If
-----------> B2SUpdateLed
UpdateLamps
End Sub

had to

End If
'B2SUpdateLed
UpdateLamps
End Sub

to play... any help would be appreciated

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (H4CK3R @ Dec 29 2011, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
two questions...



1 i am using the newer scared stiff b2s.. maybe root of my problem


The solid state points/ dmd isnt working.

I tried both the 3rd monitor and the 2nd. nothing. also getting an error in line

End If
-----------> B2SUpdateLed
UpdateLamps
End Sub

had to

End If
'B2SUpdateLed
UpdateLamps
End Sub

to play... any help would be appreciated

H4CK3R


You are using an old version of the B2S.vbs file.
Copy the b2s.vbs from Cyclone to your tables folder.

#25 H4CK3R

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:57 PM

thanks... that fixed it...

this is sweet...

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:12 PM

Hi,
when I try to load Cyclone_FS_B2S.vpt into Visual Pinball 9.0.2 VP crashes.
What do I do wrong?

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (Pinkrauty @ Jan 26 2012, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,
when I try to load Cyclone_FS_B2S.vpt into Visual Pinball 9.0.2 VP crashes.
What do I do wrong?


Off the top of my head, I would upgrade to the latest VP 9.12 and see if that helps.


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:12 PM

That's it. Thanx a lot!

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:12 AM

Odd, the backglass Opens fine, I see the score flash up for a second and then disappear behind the back glass... any idea's?



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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (H4CK3R @ Feb 5 2012, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Odd, the backglass Opens fine, I see the score flash up for a second and then disappear behind the back glass... any idea's?


The score is drawn on the backglass image, it can not disappear behind it.
That flash on the display is normal. It is part of the startup sequense.
It is more likely that the table isn't sending score data to the backglass. Check that you play the B2S table and not the original one.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:00 PM

Hi there,

I have a 3 monitor setup and I cannot get the DMD to show up (missing) when using the 'no grill' .exe. Ive loaded about 8 b2s tables so far and all of the either move the dmd to the dmd screen or allow me to move and edit them manually. Using the latest version of everything. Any ideas?
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Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE (ArcadiusMaximus @ Jul 7 2012, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi there,

I have a 3 monitor setup and I cannot get the DMD to show up (missing) when using the 'no grill' .exe. Ive loaded about 8 b2s tables so far and all of the either move the dmd to the dmd screen or allow me to move and edit them manually. Using the latest version of everything. Any ideas?



This is an older backglass and it does not have the tripple screen functionallity.
Change the .Hidden=1 to .Hidden=0 in the script to show the VPinMame window.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 10:11 PM

QUOTE (rosve @ Jul 7 2012, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ArcadiusMaximus @ Jul 7 2012, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi there,

I have a 3 monitor setup and I cannot get the DMD to show up (missing) when using the 'no grill' .exe. Ive loaded about 8 b2s tables so far and all of the either move the dmd to the dmd screen or allow me to move and edit them manually. Using the latest version of everything. Any ideas?



This is an older backglass and it does not have the tripple screen functionallity.
Change the .Hidden=1 to .Hidden=0 in the script to show the VPinMame window.


Perfect that did it. Thanks a million !
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:31 AM

I absolutely love this table but for some reason this one and time machine stutter for me, is there anything I can do? Maybe cut down on the lap effects on the back glass? Any ideas? All other B2S tables work great it's just weird the 2 mentioned give me problems!

Edited by ICPjuggla, 25 July 2012 - 01:33 AM.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (ICPjuggla @ Jul 25 2012, 03:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I absolutely love this table but for some reason this one and time machine stutter for me, is there anything I can do? Maybe cut down on the lap effects on the back glass? Any ideas? All other B2S tables work great it's just weird the 2 mentioned give me problems!


You could try to lower the lamp timer frequency a little. I have already set it to 45 ms to make the table less heavy but you can go even higher, 50 or 55.
Search for this line in the script, LampTimer.Interval = 45

This table would benefit from the new alpha ramp usage that I saw on these forums a couple of days ago. Can't remember who it was that found this new setting.

Edited by rosve, 25 July 2012 - 07:38 PM.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (rosve @ Jul 25 2012, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ICPjuggla @ Jul 25 2012, 03:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I absolutely love this table but for some reason this one and time machine stutter for me, is there anything I can do? Maybe cut down on the lap effects on the back glass? Any ideas? All other B2S tables work great it's just weird the 2 mentioned give me problems!


You could try to lower the lamp timer frequency a little. I have already set it to 45 ms to make the table less heavy but you can go even higher, 50 or 55.
Search for this line in the script, LampTimer.Interval = 45

This table would benefit from the new alpha ramp usage that I saw on these forums a couple of days ago. Can't remember who it was that found this new setting.


Hi rosve, I've tryed both the lamp timer and the .alpha change! Both are not helping much! It's weird b/c all my other tables play fine like Freddy, LW3 alpha mod and so on. it seem to be these 2 tables giving me problems!

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (ICPjuggla @ Jul 25 2012, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (rosve @ Jul 25 2012, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ICPjuggla @ Jul 25 2012, 03:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I absolutely love this table but for some reason this one and time machine stutter for me, is there anything I can do? Maybe cut down on the lap effects on the back glass? Any ideas? All other B2S tables work great it's just weird the 2 mentioned give me problems!


You could try to lower the lamp timer frequency a little. I have already set it to 45 ms to make the table less heavy but you can go even higher, 50 or 55.
Search for this line in the script, LampTimer.Interval = 45

This table would benefit from the new alpha ramp usage that I saw on these forums a couple of days ago. Can't remember who it was that found this new setting.


Hi rosve, I've tryed both the lamp timer and the .alpha change! Both are not helping much! It's weird b/c all my other tables play fine like Freddy, LW3 alpha mod and so on. it seem to be these 2 tables giving me problems!


I can't help you. Both this table and Time Machine are perfectlly smooth here on my rather low spec pc.

Edited by rosve, 25 July 2012 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:48 AM

Ditto. Cyclone is running fine on my cabinet. I have stutter on some of the more demanding tables. This isn't one of them. Strange because you say you haven't got issues with Freddy. Freddy seems a lot more demanding. I was using that table to tweak the setting of my NVIDIA driver.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE (TedB @ Jul 26 2012, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ditto. Cyclone is running fine on my cabinet. I have stutter on some of the more demanding tables. This isn't one of them. Strange because you say you haven't got issues with Freddy. Freddy seems a lot more demanding. I was using that table to tweak the setting of my NVIDIA driver.


Ya it's totally weird! I did tweak the lamp timer on Freddy but I only bumped it up to 45 or 50 and it's smooth as glass now! No luck with cyclone though like I said tryed the lamp timer and .alpha thing and it still stutters quite a bit at certain events!
Without B2S the table playes fine with the lamp timer adjustment! It seems when certain things go off in the back glass it stutters like crazy! Maybe I'll re-down load it and see if that helps! Who knows maybe something when wrong on my 1st down load! If that doesn't work I guess if there is no way to shut off a few lamps I'm going to have to stick with a non B2S for this one! Witch is. Shame b/c the spinning wheel is awesome!

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (ICPjuggla @ Jul 26 2012, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TedB @ Jul 26 2012, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ditto. Cyclone is running fine on my cabinet. I have stutter on some of the more demanding tables. This isn't one of them. Strange because you say you haven't got issues with Freddy. Freddy seems a lot more demanding. I was using that table to tweak the setting of my NVIDIA driver.


Ya it's totally weird! I did tweak the lamp timer on Freddy but I only bumped it up to 45 or 50 and it's smooth as glass now! No luck with cyclone though like I said tryed the lamp timer and .alpha thing and it still stutters quite a bit at certain events!
Without B2S the table playes fine with the lamp timer adjustment! It seems when certain things go off in the back glass it stutters like crazy! Maybe I'll re-down load it and see if that helps! Who knows maybe something when wrong on my 1st down load! If that doesn't work I guess if there is no way to shut off a few lamps I'm going to have to stick with a non B2S for this one! Witch is. Shame b/c the spinning wheel is awesome!


Maybe the GI lights on the backglass is causing stutter. (slow video card ?)
You can set the GI on permanently by changing this Sub routine
CODE
Sub BGGI(enabled)
  SetB2SData 35, ABS( not Enabled)
End Sub


to

CODE
Sub BGGI(enabled)
  SetB2SData 35, 1
End Sub

Edited by rosve, 26 July 2012 - 05:57 PM.