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#21 ClickerSnapper

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 10:23 PM

agreed!

In this day and age we should be connected to play...IMO

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 11:04 PM

Thank you very much for the info, destruk! It's great to hear that you seem to care about vpPlus now.

I just wanted to recreate interests in vpPlus and to make sure that this great addition/plugin is not forgotten, but still available and most possibly still running well. I still have to test/try that under Win 7 myself.

I think it would be great if some more people could/would try vpPlus 1.2, step by step, first install and try to play the tables, then later try the other features as netplay and chat.

Even if it's all not that complicated, I remember that I had some difficulties first to configure netplay myself too. My idea here is to guide people to netplay step by step in my own simple words and language and to take away fear from them to try vpPlus. If and when that is achieved (shouldn't be that hard, or?) and people are fully aware of vpPlus and it's possibilities and capabilities and are ready to try it, even if the amount of (appealing) tables is still small, I think that would be a great success.

I'm sure that each further sign of continued developement in vpPlus would bring more interests.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 11:42 PM

Tournament play online!!!???? Maybe someday... One can only dream.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:36 PM

may be it would be usefull to have an IRC channel as "meeting point" for vp+ partners ?

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:02 PM

Where can I get the latest compiled version of VPplus? I would like to play around a bit with this today. (The files I have are mostly dated "6/24/2007", is that the latest? 1.2?)

I am thinking that I can setup my 2 desktop PC's to interact for testing.


Edit: The demo table seems to run just fine in VP9. I am going to set it up on the other desktop pc, and see if I can get them to connect.



 


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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:23 PM

Anyone wanting to test this out? I'm in the chat room.



 


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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:30 PM

@Rawd:

vpPlus 1.2 is the latest. It's available at Pinball Originals. The additional tables too.

If the table seems to run fine in VP9, that doesn't automatically mean that netplay works too. But worth to try.

I'm willing to test with you some later this evening. I will visit the chat room then.

@kaiser_k_bis:

I guess another software application (for IRC) running at the same time probably would overextend my PC. I think the VPF chat is adequate as "meeting point" for vp+ partners first, or?
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 09:06 PM

This would be amazing if applied to more tables. Online vs play would definitely be awesome. As it is right know I am dragging (well not really dragging, she likes pinball more than other video games) my girlfriend to play with me. Pinball is best shared as stated above. smile.gif

Hope this develops into something even bigger!

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (grapper @ Feb 14 2010, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This would be amazing if applied to more tables. ... Hope this develops into something even bigger!


Yes, absolutely right. That's exactly the reason I started this thread once and now tried to reactivate it. There's no other way to feed the hope on further developement than to openly show high interests. Where's the motivation for the developers else? It's not enough to just hope for further developement, people have to show it here and post about. Even better if they would try/test the available version.

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Here's a short instruction in my own simple words which I posted to Shooby Doo in YOGI'S CORNER today. Maybe it can be from some help to take away fear of installation/setup and can encourage some people to try/test, so I think it's ok to post it here too:

vpPlus isn't that much complicated at all. If it (most probably only the netplay modus) doesn't run at once, you only need to change some adjustments/settings in the router/firewall. That's the only small challenge there.

The procedere is this:


Step one:

Download vpPlus. Unzip and install by running the setup file. Place (drive/path/folder) to install: Your choice.

Then start VP (recommended VP8.1) to the editor and load the table, that comes with vpPlus. How? File/open/ then navigate to the previous chosen place where you installed vpPlus. Find the table in the 'vpPlus Demo Table' subfolder there. Run the table. Check if you can operate the control bar on the left using your mouse. Insert coin, start and play as usual. That all should work at once without any problem.

Once installed you can read the vpPlus Users Guide (pdf). It's to find in the installation folder.


Step two (when you've found anyone to play against):

One of the both players has to host the table. The other one has to connect to the hosted table. You need to arrange that first. The one who hosts the table needs to find out his IP address (if you don't know your IP address, there are many different websites that show it to you, maybe this http://whatismyipaddress.com/) and provides this info to the other player. In the netplay dialogue started from the control bar you have to declare if you host the table or if you want to connect to the hosted table (then you need to input the IP address from the other). Done.

If that works at once you are ready to play against each other. Sounds easy enough, or? Then start the chat feature to communicate with each other by pressing c (or use the control bar to start the chat).


I'm no expert and maybe I can be wrong here and there, but I already used the netplay modus of vpPlus successfully. If I can, you can too. Don't miss the fun!
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Posted 15 February 2010 - 09:05 PM

I agree and, although I am new to the pinball scene, I am surprised that there is not more interest in this. I will get demolished in 90% of my games, but that does not matter. The ability to pick up something new and maybe voice chat via Skype or the like would be a lot of fun. Anyhow, this would be so extremely cool but it needs more popular tables. Imagine Twilight Zone, Addams family and mars Attacks. drool.gif

Edited by grapper, 15 February 2010 - 09:38 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2010 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (grapper @ Feb 15 2010, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyhow, this would be so extremely cool but it needs more popular tables. Imagine Twiligt Zone, Addams family and mars Attacks. drool.gif


If I seriously thought you meant Mars Attacks, I would code it to work for VP+, but I know you meant Attack From Mars. biggrin.gif

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (Bob5453 @ Feb 15 2010, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (grapper @ Feb 15 2010, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyhow, this would be so extremely cool but it needs more popular tables. Imagine Twiligt Zone, Addams family and mars Attacks. drool.gif


If I seriously thought you meant Mars Attacks, I would code it to work for VP+, but I know you meant Attack From Mars. biggrin.gif

Haha, sorry about my mix up but I did mean Attack from Mars. tongue.gif
I just did a search and will try your table now, so at least something good came from my confused post. smile.gif

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Bob5453 @ Feb 15 2010, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I seriously thought you meant Mars Attacks, I would code it to work for VP+, but I know you meant Attack From Mars. biggrin.gif


Hi Bob, are you sure you could do that? Without too much trouble? That would be too cool. I think that table would be really really great for vpPlus and could attract many more people. The same is also true for all your other tables (always not too easy, but some difficult to play/learn to play, while you can really notice your playing skills and improvements the more you play, and very enjoyable/amusing), but probably Mars Attacks would be the best choice to begin with.


@All:

Mars Attacks is already a great table. If you now want to play Bob's table at once - I'm sure you want - here's the link to the non vpPlus VP9 version of Mars Attacks: http://www.vpforums....u...l&f_id=1986.

Wouldn't it be really great to play this table in vpPlus?
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#34 Bob5453

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 12:05 AM

Thread at Pinball-Originals where I created a MAD MAG VPplus table version. There may be a few useful things to learn from that thread.

http://www.pinball-o...ghlight=mad mag

The actual table isn't on my current harddrive (as I'm using a backup pc right now) and I edited a version 1.1 out of that thread for some reason, but I'm sure someone should have it. biggrin.gif


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 03:20 PM

Is there somewhere other than pinball-originals to download this stuff? That site runs really slow, I had to register, and I'm not getting an e-mail so I can verify I registered. I did find VPplus here:

http://rich_gade.hom...net/~rich_gade/

But I don't have any tables, just the default that came with it. What to do?

Until then, it seems I've got it running (wasn't complicated at all), so I'll be in and out of the chat today in hopes of trying this out. However, I'm at work right now so I may have to answer a phone call or take a customer in the middle of a game.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 04:51 PM

correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this only work with Originals? I'm pretty sure you can't link it up with anything that uses Pinmame. However you could use it in a 'simulated' table, such as the Spiderman table that JPSalas made which is one of the more popular ones.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 06:49 PM

Yeah, I think there are only 3 tables that work with it, but they're only at PO. I still hadn't received a confirmation for my registration. Hopefully I'll at least play 1 game with someone on the default table today.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (highrise @ Feb 16 2010, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this only work with Originals? I'm pretty sure you can't link it up with anything that uses Pinmame. However you could use it in a 'simulated' table, such as the Spiderman table that JPSalas made which is one of the more popular ones.



Actually it does work with PinMAME just fine highrise, however, there aren't any released vpm tables with the script functionality. They are works in progress, and it does work.

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:42 PM

If anyone needs vpPlus 1.2 and/or one or more of the available tables for testing purposes, please contact me by pm or email. I'm not sure, but I can imagine and can understand, if it's not wished to upload them anywhere else. I can be wrong here anyway.
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 08:46 PM

Yogi, do you or anyone else, have the 1.1 VP+ version of Mad Mag?

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