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#361 hotdp

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:44 AM

Just a quick question: What is "HT w/PS3Eyes"? What's the "HT"? Please explain in detail.

 

Thanx!

 

 

I have nothing to do with this project. But my guess is Head Tracking? 


Edited by hotdp, 10 June 2013 - 09:44 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:02 AM

Just a quick question: What is "HT w/PS3Eyes"? What's the "HT"? Please explain in detail.

 

Thanx!

 

 

I have nothing to do with this project. But my guess is Head Tracking? 

OK, then buying a simply PS3Eyes and a separate IR-glasses (or similar) is the thing in question?



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:07 AM

Just a quick question: What is "HT w/PS3Eyes"? What's the "HT"? Please explain in detail.

 

Thanx!

 

 

I have nothing to do with this project. But my guess is Head Tracking? 

Exactly. Head Tracking.

 

In BAM i use "HT w/PS3Eyes" as name of plugin (Head Tracking is too long). 


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:08 AM

Hi,

 

just bought a ps3 cam. Cheap and works great for me. But why the cam doesnt work if i use BAM with hyperpin? The MOD is running but the cam didnt start and i see the FP-Window ontop while loading the table.

Enthusiast, i didnt find nothing in your FAQ on you website.


Edited by flynt, 10 June 2013 - 11:09 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:16 AM

OK, then buying a simply PS3Eyes and a separate IR-glasses (or similar) is the thing in question?

HT w/PS3Eyes uses:

2x PS3Eye cams (modified)

1x IR LED on a hat/glasses

4x IR LEDs on calibration board.

 

Modified PS3Eye cams means:

- remove IR-Filter (normal cams have built in IR-Filter which blocks IR-Light)

- added Daylight Filter. We want to remove normally visible light and leave IR-Light

 

If You means shutter glasses from 3D TV, then NO. Glasses are used only as holder for IR-LED.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:48 AM

Hi,

 

just bought a ps3 cam. Cheap and works great for me. But why the cam doesnt work if i use BAM with hyperpin? The MOD is running but the cam didnt start and i see the FP-Window ontop while loading the table.

Enthusiast, i didnt find nothing in your FAQ on you website.

 

OK:

Found that:

;**********************************FUTURE PINBALL***********************************
if (systemName = "Future Pinball" && (executable = "Future Pinball.exe"))
{
    Hotkey, %exitEmulatorKey%, CloseFP
    RunWait, "%emuPath%\BAM\FPLoader.exe" /open "%tablePath%\%tableName%.fpt" /play /exit /arcaderender,,hide UseErrorLevel
    Process, WaitClose, Future Pinball.exe
}
 
--- 
Replace: "%executable%" with "BAM\FPLoader.exe
 
But the MOD didnt start....any ideas...?

Edited by flynt, 10 June 2013 - 12:14 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 01:47 PM

Hi,

 

just bought a ps3 cam. Cheap and works great for me. But why the cam doesnt work if i use BAM with hyperpin? The MOD is running but the cam didnt start and i see the FP-Window ontop while loading the table.

Enthusiast, i didnt find nothing in your FAQ on you website.

 

OK:

Found that:

;**********************************FUTURE PINBALL***********************************
if (systemName = "Future Pinball" && (executable = "Future Pinball.exe"))
{
    Hotkey, %exitEmulatorKey%, CloseFP
    RunWait, "%emuPath%\BAM\FPLoader.exe" /open "%tablePath%\%tableName%.fpt" /play /exit /arcaderender,,hide UseErrorLevel
    Process, WaitClose, Future Pinball.exe
}
 
--- 
Replace: "%executable%" with "BAM\FPLoader.exe
 
But the MOD didnt start....any ideas...?

Added to FAQ:

 

http://ravarcade.pl/...n-to-use-bam,51


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:19 PM

Hi,

 

just bought a ps3 cam. Cheap and works great for me. But why the cam doesnt work if i use BAM with hyperpin? The MOD is running but the cam didnt start and i see the FP-Window ontop while loading the table.

Enthusiast, i didnt find nothing in your FAQ on you website.

 

OK:

Found that:

;**********************************FUTURE PINBALL***********************************
if (systemName = "Future Pinball" && (executable = "Future Pinball.exe"))
{
    Hotkey, %exitEmulatorKey%, CloseFP
    RunWait, "%emuPath%\BAM\FPLoader.exe" /open "%tablePath%\%tableName%.fpt" /play /exit /arcaderender,,hide UseErrorLevel
    Process, WaitClose, Future Pinball.exe
}
 
--- 
Replace: "%executable%" with "BAM\FPLoader.exe
 
But the MOD didnt start....any ideas...?

Added to FAQ:

 

http://ravarcade.pl/...n-to-use-bam,51

 

I tried this but it dindt work for me. The table is loading but i cant get into the menu... the red led of the ps3 cam signals to be ready but nothing else  happens... i use the fplauch 1.295  wip 10. 


Edited by flynt, 10 June 2013 - 02:20 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:41 PM

I tried this but it dindt work for me. The table is loading but i cant get into the menu... the red led of the ps3 cam signals to be ready but nothing else  happens... i use the fplauch 1.295  wip 10. 

You can't get into the menu,but table is centered or table is like witho BAM (You see only table in one corrner)?

What is Your graphics card? If AMD/ATI try to update gfx drivers. 


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:48 PM

I tried this but it dindt work for me. The table is loading but i cant get into the menu... the red led of the ps3 cam signals to be ready but nothing else  happens... i use the fplauch 1.295  wip 10. 

You can't get into the menu,but table is centered or table is like witho BAM (You see only table in one corrner)?

What is Your graphics card? If AMD/ATI try to update gfx drivers. 

GFX is Nvidia ... i see the table centered in fullscreen 

 

Whats about the  "FPloaderNew.exe" from older version ? Is it the same like the current fploader.exe ?


Edited by flynt, 10 June 2013 - 04:58 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:21 PM

Hi Rafal, i changed the button for the menu, now i can access the menu but the cam isnt working. Just black preview-screen. 


Edited by flynt, 10 June 2013 - 05:25 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:42 PM

I tried this but it dindt work for me. The table is loading but i cant get into the menu... the red led of the ps3 cam signals to be ready but nothing else  happens... i use the fplauch 1.295  wip 10. 

You can't get into the menu,but table is centered or table is like witho BAM (You see only table in one corrner)?

What is Your graphics card? If AMD/ATI try to update gfx drivers. 

GFX is Nvidia ... i see the table centered in fullscreen 

 

Whats about the  "FPloaderNew.exe" from older version ? Is it the same like the current fploader.exe ?

...

I will test it in hour with HyperPin.


Edited by ravarcade, 10 June 2013 - 05:44 PM.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

Hi Rafal, i changed the button for the menu, now i can access the menu but the cam isnt working. Just black preview-screen. 

 

If i switch to SimpleCam after start i get an vc++ runtime error. If i wait some minutes and than switch to simplecam i see a "No Camera Found" in the preview-window



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 06:48 PM

hey guys, sorry to interrupt but i'm going to order all my pc parts one of these days

could you tell me what i need to make it all work with bam ??

 

i have the eye toy from my ps move but would it be possible to make a tutorial how to install all this

and change lenses for example??

i'm pretty handy but i'm not really shure i understand everything you guys talking about..

 

oh and does it run on xp?



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:44 PM

Hi Rafal, i changed the button for the menu, now i can access the menu but the cam isnt working. Just black preview-screen. 

 

If i switch to SimpleCam after start i get an vc++ runtime error. If i wait some minutes and than switch to simplecam i see a "No Camera Found" in the preview-window

Here is raport of my tests:

 

Short: No errors with PS3Eyes cams.

 

Long:

Win XP, Hyper Pin 1.0 (no modification to HP, no FPLauncher... clean hyperpin)

- works normaly, no errors with cams

- first load.... no view of table on load (black screen)

- next load (after exiting from table): normal view of loading table , no FP window

- no problems with exiting of table

- test Simple PS3Eye (one cam) and HT w/PS3Eyes (two cams)

 

Win7, clean Hyper Pin

- same like under XP

 

Win 7, Hyper Pin with FPLuncher 1.295 WIP 10

- no problems with cams

- i see FP window on load,

- i have to do ALT+TAB to get to table

- on exit i ended with FP window not closed

- then i close FP window (ALT+F - menu ALT+X - exit) - Hyper Pin is not responding to my actions (can't switch table, exit or launch other or same table).

 

All test with BAM v0.8-32

 

Check if You have last plugins and BAM.

Try with clean HyperPin.

 

(i did not add "/STAYINRAM" switch)

 

------

 

Make sure, that You have installed Platform SDK for PS3Eye as "developer".

Here is how to install or reinstall drivers for PS3Eyes


Edited by ravarcade, 10 June 2013 - 07:52 PM.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:48 PM

hey guys, sorry to interrupt but i'm going to order all my pc parts one of these days

could you tell me what i need to make it all work with bam ??

 

i have the eye toy from my ps move but would it be possible to make a tutorial how to install all this

and change lenses for example??

i'm pretty handy but i'm not really shure i understand everything you guys talking about..

 

oh and does it run on xp?

 

He has a good tut on his site



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:54 PM

hey guys, sorry to interrupt but i'm going to order all my pc parts one of these days

could you tell me what i need to make it all work with bam ??

 

i have the eye toy from my ps move but would it be possible to make a tutorial how to install all this

and change lenses for example??

i'm pretty handy but i'm not really shure i understand everything you guys talking about..

 

oh and does it run on xp?

 

He has a good tut on his site

Here is post about modification of PS3Eye cams:

 

http://www.vpforums....=12#entry225445

 

 

About XP:

Work everyting, but not Kinect (SDK require Win 7)


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:26 PM

Hi Rafal, i changed the button for the menu, now i can access the menu but the cam isnt working. Just black preview-screen. 

 

If i switch to SimpleCam after start i get an vc++ runtime error. If i wait some minutes and than switch to simplecam i see a "No Camera Found" in the preview-window

Here is raport of my tests:

 

Short: No errors with PS3Eyes cams.

 

Long:

Win XP, Hyper Pin 1.0 (no modification to HP, no FPLauncher... clean hyperpin)

- works normaly, no errors with cams

- first load.... no view of table on load (black screen)

- next load (after exiting from table): normal view of loading table , no FP window

- no problems with exiting of table

- test Simple PS3Eye (one cam) and HT w/PS3Eyes (two cams)

 

Win7, clean Hyper Pin

- same like under XP

 

Win 7, Hyper Pin with FPLuncher 1.295 WIP 10

- no problems with cams

- i see FP window on load,

- i have to do ALT+TAB to get to table

- on exit i ended with FP window not closed

- then i close FP window (ALT+F - menu ALT+X - exit) - Hyper Pin is not responding to my actions (can't switch table, exit or launch other or same table).

 

All test with BAM v0.8-32

 

Check if You have last plugins and BAM.

Try with clean HyperPin.

 

(i did not add "/STAYINRAM" switch)

 

------

 

Make sure, that You have installed Platform SDK for PS3Eye as "developer".

Here is how to install or reinstall drivers for PS3Eyes

Thanks for testing ... strange... when im using only fplaunch.exe it works... but if i use hyperpin the cam doesnt work. 



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 10:09 PM

Thanks for testing ... strange... when im using only fplaunch.exe it works... but if i use hyperpin the cam doesnt work. 

Hyper Pin is a little "agresive" program. For example at start it connect to all joystics and other Human Interface Devices (like WiiMotes). If other program (like started game) try to use same device, it have to do it in "shared" mode. Not all programs do it. For example first versions of BAM uses WiiMotes in "exlusive" mode. It don't works with HyperPin.

 

Maybe You have some other settings in Hyper Pin.

Try to install HP in other folder. Make it works with BAM and test. If it works, then You have to find what setting in HP make troubles,


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:31 PM

Thanks for testing ... strange... when im using only fplaunch.exe it works... but if i use hyperpin the cam doesnt work. 

Hyper Pin is a little "agresive" program. For example at start it connect to all joystics and other Human Interface Devices (like WiiMotes). If other program (like started game) try to use same device, it have to do it in "shared" mode. Not all programs do it. For example first versions of BAM uses WiiMotes in "exlusive" mode. It don't works with HyperPin.

 

Maybe You have some other settings in Hyper Pin.

Try to install HP in other folder. Make it works with BAM and test. If it works, then You have to find what setting in HP make troubles,

I made a new folder with a new and fresh copy of hyperpin... than i copied all files from the old folder to the new one except the exe ... than fplaunch 1.295... and it really works... but why? Besides the foldername everything is the same... after a complete restart of the cab it stoped working. I found out that my cam is not available and not shown in the device-manager, after a replug everything works fine but only with the new installation. 

 

Anyway... i still see the FP-Editor-window ontop while the editor is loading the table


Edited by flynt, 10 June 2013 - 11:41 PM.