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[frodus]

Anyone get this working with the sensor on the VirtuaPin plunger v2? Would be kind of cool to have essentially open software on it.

[frodus]

Just got my KL25Z to start playing with.

I've been playing with MBED for years using the mbed module and the smartboard because I was playing with CANbus. It didn't quite have the IO ability I need.

 

I'm going to build a 2-joystick box that mounts via lockbar in front of my pin to kind of turn it into an arcade when I want to play. Just need a USB port, some buttons/joystick and this to map out some keys. After that, i might convert the VP plunger over to this project.

[Zablon]

For clarity - is there a specific version of VP and/or other mods that are needed for this (specific pinmame.dlls? Everything is so splintered into different areas now it is getting harder to keep track if you aren't on top of everything all the time.

 

Like this for example from the doc:

If you want the nudge filter before it’s released officially, an unofficial modified version of VP 9.9 with the

feature is available here

 

 

Is this still necessary?

Edited by Zablon, 18 January 2015 - 10:44 PM.

[sliderpoint]

The only thing really required is the pinscape software for the Freescale board. However it is recommended to use the two modified visual pinball executables that mjr hosted https://www.dropbox....hcJWkIe6ha?dl=0 . They provide better nudge behavior.

No other software is needed.



-Mike

[mjr]

 

For clarity - is there a specific version of VP and/or other mods that are needed for this (specific pinmame.dlls? Everything is so splintered into different areas now it is getting harder to keep track if you aren't on top of everything all the time.

 

Yes, the perpetual problem with open source projects and the internet in general.  However, I've tried to combat the inexorable forces of entropy, at least temporarily for this one little project, by consolidating everything about it onto the mbed project page at http://developer.mbe...r/wiki/Homepage.  I think that page has links to everything, and that all of the information on the page is current.  (If you see anything that contradicts that claim, please let me know and I'll try to fix it.)

[boiydiego]

is this best way to nudge nowdays , is the code implemented with vp9.91 ? i only like to use it for nudge ,is just programing the board and settings in vp good to have it working ?

[Zablon]

Ok so I've hit an issue that I'm not sure if I did all this right or not. When I plug the joystick port in the big LED goes white and stays that way and nothing happens, and the PC cannot find it.

 

When I do a SDA_INFO I get

 

Board Name is: FRDM-KL25Z
MicroBoot Kernel Version is: 1.05
Bootloader Version is: 1.11
Installed Application: PEMicro FRDM-KL25Z Mass Storage/Debug App
Application Version is: 1.14

 

I boot up in "disk" mode and copy the .bin over and it shows it is there, but when I unplug it and plug it back in, it is not there... (drive shows 128MB available, not 128k like in the doc). Am I doing this correctly? Any idea what the white LED is? (constant). If i I recopy the .bin file to the 'drive' the green led flashes 3 times, then the white LED goes off and the green led goes solid. This remains this way until I unplug it and plug it back in (and file is gone again).

 

Sorry for all the questions.

Edited by Zablon, 21 January 2015 - 04:34 AM.

[paulohotline]

Hello guys, I got my FRDM-KL25Z board updated with software as per the instructions and Windows 7 detects it as a pinscape controller and the nudge is working under properties. Everything appears to work properly until I actually load a table with either VP 9.9 or VP PM5. The gravity of the PM5 table becomes too strong and I cannot get the ball into play. I have to disable the "nudge sensor" under settings to get the ball into play in a PM5 table.

I believe my issue is the FRDM appears to conflicting with PinballWizard board I use to connect all buttons and digital plunger. My plunger is using The Z-Axis and Z-Rotation from PinballWizard and it's fine with no glitching when I unplug the FRDM-KL25Z. However, when I plug in the FRDM-KL25Z the plunger is always shaking and is pretty much usable on any table. I also have also disabled the plunger sensor on the board with configuration app provided and this has not fixed the issue.

Here are the glitches I get when enabling the "nudge sensor", set to 1000% gain in a VP PM5 with any table:

• Plunger is constantly shaking (even with nudge sensor disabled)
• Gravity is too strong and I cannot get ball out shooter lane. This includes testing with the VP.exe accelerator tables provided in the documentation.
• Nudge is working fine as the ball does move but table is unplayable

Any help would be appreciated, I have unplugged the board for now. Is this a conflict with PinballWizard joystick board or is it something else?

Edited by paulohotline, 21 January 2015 - 03:29 PM.

[ClarkKent]

In PM5 the x- and y-gain settings should be a little more than 1/10 of the regular physics version. I'm using 150 and it shows the same behavior as 1.200 on VP9.9.

[paulohotline]

Hey guys, I did not realize that PinballWizard joystick board had a nudge sensor built in! I cannot disable it unfortunately and this is the reason I am having these issues with the FRDM-KL25Z board. This board appears to be working fine, and I know why the previous owner disabled "nudge sensor" in VP.

 

Is there an updated configuration utility anyone can point me to? The one I have on my cabinet is from 2008 and it cannot detect the board. I want to see if I can completely turn off the built in nudge sensor.

[Zablon]

anyone know if the .bin file disappearing is normal? After I copy it out there, if i do a file scan on the flashdrive it shows the file is there, but after unplugging and replugging it in it is gone again...

[paulohotline]

Yes, I believe it does disappear. When you plug in the board in the USB2.0 port on the computer, does it now detect it as a pinscape joystick? If yes, then you are good to go.

[Zablon]

No, it doesn't which is why I wondered if I missed something. It doesn't see it at all on the PC side on the joystick port. Only if I have it plugged in on the programming side.

 

I tried it on multiple pc's with same outcome.

Edited by Zablon, 21 January 2015 - 11:18 PM.

[sliderpoint]

No, it doesn't which is why I wondered if I missed something. It doesn't see it at all on the PC side on the joystick port. Only if I have it plugged in on the programming side.

 

I tried it on multiple pc's with same outcome.

 

Did you walk through all the firmware update steps first before dropping in the program?  I would try doing those steps one more time.  Then if if you drop the program on and plug into the controller side and it still doesn't recognize, call mouser for an exchange.

 

-Mike

[paulohotline]

Good point, I had to redo the firmware update twice before I was able to successfully detect as a joystick. I would go back and do those steps again.

Edited by paulohotline, 22 January 2015 - 05:25 PM.

[javier1515]

I have a problem with the option of Ledwiz, install my KL25Z 5 Leds, DOF detects fine but the LEDs are always on.

installation that I have is simple, the leds 5v I draw from the power supply pc and each output to GND ports KL25Z.

What am I doing wrong?

 

Sorry if this is a stupid question. 

 

 

Cheers, Javier..

Edited by javier1515, 22 January 2015 - 05:15 PM.

[Zablon]

 

No, it doesn't which is why I wondered if I missed something. It doesn't see it at all on the PC side on the joystick port. Only if I have it plugged in on the programming side.

 

I tried it on multiple pc's with same outcome.

 

Did you walk through all the firmware update steps first before dropping in the program?  I would try doing those steps one more time.  Then if if you drop the program on and plug into the controller side and it still doesn't recognize, call mouser for an exchange.

 

-Mike

 

 

I just tried redoing it all 3-4 times with no luck. Went out and got the actual drivers and installed them just as another troubleshooting measure, but no go. I guess the board is bad. Unfortunately I probably can't get an exchange because I had already soldered the wires on. Could have been that, but not sure, everything looked good. I had done all the software stuff prior to that, but had not tried connecting the joystick side until after.

 

At least the boards are only $13 so cheap to replace.

[sliderpoint]

Bummer deal. You might still try to give them a call. Seems to me someone else had a bad
one too and mouser exchanged it.

[boiydiego]

in the hardware installguide on mbed is stated that board FRDM-KL25Z is best mount in front on bottem , i have in my cabinet shaker in front , can i better not install it under my lockbar then , if i mount it on bottem in front will the nudge not be affected by the shaker ??

Edited by boiydiego, 29 January 2015 - 10:24 PM.

[Zablon]

OK....I really need some assistance here.

 

I got my second controller. Followed the procedures, and when I plugged in the joystick port IT DID THE EXACT SAME THING. And now, the colored LED just stays white when you plug in either side and the pc does not recognize anything on the joystick side. It is exactly what the other one is doing. Everything shows correct in the SDA page.

 

So my question is what am I missing?? Here are the steps I took:

 

1. Plug in programmer side with reset button pushed - green led flashes, colored LED changes all sorts of colors

2. Copy over BOOTUPDATEAPP_Pemicro_v111.SDA

3. Unplug, plug into programmer port again and back in to bootloader - green led flashes, colored LED changes all sorts of colors

4. Copy over MSD-DEBUG-FRDM-KL25Z_Pemicro_v114.SDA

5. Unplug, and plug in again (w/o reset). This time it shows a 128MB flash drive called FRDM-KL2Z - green led flashes - colored LED changes all sorts of colors

6. Copy over Pinscape_Controller.KL25Z.bin - when this is copied green led flashes, but colored LED goes off

7. Unplug and plug into joystick port - nothing happens on PC, and green led flashes and colored LED goes solid white

8. If plugged into programming port again (and every time after) colored LED is solid white. (same with joystick port).

 

Very odd...I have to be doing something wrong. Is it possible my bin file is corrupt or for wrong thing? I recompiled it a few times, same results.... 

 

Is there a way to erase this and make it fresh?

 

ugh

Edited by Zablon, 30 January 2015 - 12:11 AM.