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[J3SteR]

Yay! Im really excited now. Glad to hear the move to dx9. Any eta on vp10? Oh and did the move to dx9 also reduce cpu overhead? Wondering if I can get by with a low end amd cpu. Thanks guy's cant wait and awesome job as always!

Edited by J3SteR, 24 July 2014 - 08:20 PM.

[fuzzel]

VP10 will be released when it's done sorry I can't say when that will be...

[J3SteR]

VP10 will be released when it's done sorry I can't say when that will be...

Completely understand! Thanks for the work you put in! I can't wait to get my cab back together!

[unclewilly]

Yes I'd like to chime in. Take your time fuzzel.
The features you've done so far are excellent.
And I for one, appreciate everything you guys are doing for us

[The Loafer]

UW is not alone, he speaks for the silent majority!

[J3SteR]

Are animated back glasses built into VP yet? Or do we still have to use a second program?

[fuzzel]

No it's not implemented yet.

[ClarkKent]

I found a very very impressive video of Pinball Arcade for the PS4. The effects, especially the GI and the reflections in the ball, are looking almost like real, like pre rendered graphics. It would be great to have such a quality in VP10!

 

[Les73gTx]

The video looks amazing but I have found that if I try to play on any console after playing on the full blown cabinet (even on the 100 inch projector) it seems way to easy and more like a video game then a pinball simulation. I know I am not buying a new console for a while no matter how realistic it looks ..
VP10 has a new goal ... that is my fantasy.

[Slydog43]

I'm hoping the new ball technology in VP10 will improve VP a lot (3d ball mesh??), does any one know how this will help VP out?

[goesta]

Watching the video of Ps4, reminds me again how awsome unclewillys Monsterbash and BOP are already are in VP9.9.

[The Loafer]

The video light show from the pinball arcade on the ps4 is making its way to the pc version once the Xbox one version is released

[dark]

The PS4 pinball looks pretty nice, especially the lighting like you say, but what surprises me is how inaccurate many of their models are considering they have paid professionals making these recreations.  The genie, rudy from Funhouse and the cirqus master all look "off", and don't accurately represent the real thing in my opinion.

 

I would like to see VP eventually reach full 3D status like this, but as it stands VP is the best in terms of game play physics, I wouldn't want to trade that in too soon for 3D.

I haven't tried unit3D pinball yet but it seems that's what they are striving for,  I think some days full 3D pinball simulations coupled with BAM kits or something similar will eventually become common place.

[ClarkKent]

Yeah, I know. I already discussed this over at PinballArcadeFans.com - textures and 3D models are way more accurate on VP than on the commercial Pinball Arcade. I do not understand that they collect as much as 100.000 dollars to create one table and are not able to use a part of this amount to have the best textures they can get. I think it's simply all about money...

 

But on the other side the GI is THAT realistic! Man, this is just incredible! Is this possible with DX9 or is DX11 necessary for VP10 to provide a similar experience?

[ClarkKent]

For VP10 I would like to see that the ball does not simply disappear in a hole, suddenly pops into a kicker or lock. There is always a small movement of the ball that makes it more realistic. It's good to see in the PA-video above.

[fuzzel]

Yeah, I know. I already discussed this over at PinballArcadeFans.com - textures and 3D models are way more accurate on VP than on the commercial Pinball Arcade. I do not understand that they collect as much as 100.000 dollars to create one table and are not able to use a part of this amount to have the best textures they can get. I think it's simply all about money...

 

But on the other side the GI is THAT realistic! Man, this is just incredible! Is this possible with DX9 or is DX11 necessary for VP10 to provide a similar experience?

I think you need DX11 to create these effects. DX9 is good but DX11 is even better with lot's of features which are impossible to realize in DX9 or only with a lot of extra processings steps. But we are just at the beginning of VP10 who knows how the final VP10.x version will look like

[J3SteR]

Yeah, I know. I already discussed this over at PinballArcadeFans.com - textures and 3D models are way more accurate on VP than on the commercial Pinball Arcade. I do not understand that they collect as much as 100.000 dollars to create one table and are not able to use a part of this amount to have the best textures they can get. I think it's simply all about money...
 
But on the other side the GI is THAT realistic! Man, this is just incredible! Is this possible with DX9 or is DX11 necessary for VP10 to provide a similar experience?

I think you need DX11 to create these effects. DX9 is good but DX11 is even better with lot's of features which are impossible to realize in DX9 or only with a lot of extra processings steps. But we are just at the beginning of VP10 who knows how the final VP10.x version will look like

Do you think vp may go to dx11?

[fuzzel]

LOL in a distant future maybe We've just converted VP to DX9. If we changed the whole render engine using shaders it can be easier to convert VP to DX11 but there are quite some incompatible changes from DX9 to DX11 which makes the porting not an easy one.

[J3SteR]

LOL in a distant future maybe We've just converted VP to DX9. If we changed the whole render engine using shaders it can be easier to convert VP to DX11 but there are quite some incompatible changes from DX9 to DX11 which makes the porting not an easy one.

Well I'll take dx9 for now. Just happy we finally left dx7 in the past where it belongs!

[ClarkKent]

After watching many movies on YouTube I noticed that VP is not able to display fast flickering and pulsing of flashers. Maybe VP10 will be able to do so?