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#3241 BananaBoat

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:01 AM

Yea sure. Let's see how the official release deals with these "strange, woeful issues and problems"...I'm not holding my breath since they don't get the focus they deserve.

#3242 freneticamnesic

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:04 AM

I do not believe you are cut out for this beta business. It requires patience, actual information, patience, positive input, and patience. I haven't really seen any of that from you. Stick with VP9 for now...



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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:24 AM

I get some stutter every once in a while, but when it's not there there is not even a hiccup. It never occurred to me to blame the program. Windows update downloads, scans, other downloads, maintenance, or scans, other programs, less than ideal VP settings per system, less than ideal GPU settings per VP, system file management, like indexing, etc. are the cause.

 

Even if I could not run VPX smoothly, all I would need to know is that others can. I would not exchange machines or components for the beta, but when released I would gladly if I needed to. If at the beginning of the beta, the changes were charted, I would have cringed, but for what is going on I think VPX is maybe for higher end systems, but nothing extreme.  



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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:39 AM

"Not cut out" for beta testing is a ridiculous statememnt . There are many members here who have made comment regarding this stutter issue in other posts, I could link a dozen if you want, yet it seems to be the elephant in the room. Why shouldn't it be discussed here?

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:48 AM

I've got not stutter on any table as of yet.
I7
8gb ram
Nvidia 750 ti ftw series 2gb running 3 screens
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#3246 freneticamnesic

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:51 AM

"Not cut out" for beta testing is a ridiculous statememnt . There are many members here who have made comment regarding this stutter issue in other posts, I could link a dozen if you want, yet it seems to be the elephant in the room. Why shouldn't it be discussed here?

 

Discuss it less aggressively



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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:52 AM

I've got not stutter on any table as of yet.
I7
8gb ram
Nvidia 750 ti ftw series 2gb running 3 screens
Ssd

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Could you post your video card and VP settings?

"Not cut out" for beta testing is a ridiculous statememnt . There are many members here who have made comment regarding this stutter issue in other posts, I could link a dozen if you want, yet it seems to be the elephant in the room. Why shouldn't it be discussed here?

 
Discuss it less aggressively
I'm not being aggressive at all, perhaps it's the way in which it is being received?

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:55 AM

When I'm back at home ill post my settings.
The card is a evga 750 ti for the win 2gb card

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:55 AM

Anyone plan to look into the stuttering issues?

What is your of specs? I also have not seen any stutter on tables. Was a few betas that changed some things and those tables needed updates but the stutter was a table issue not a vp10 issue. Provide your specs maybe people can help fix it. It's usually either a setting or use of multiple display cards or running non 64 bit os

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#3250 freneticamnesic

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 12:55 AM

I'm picking up what you're laying down

 

2gb gtx 650 ti, 3gb ram, intel i7 no stutter

2x 2gb gtx 650m sli, 8gb ram, intel i7 no stutter

 

now stutter is a very subjective term, I've seen low fps described as stutter... 



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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:03 AM

I'm picking up what you're laying down
 
2gb gtx 650 ti, 3gb ram, intel i7 no stutter
2x 2gb gtx 650m sli, 8gb ram, intel i7 no stutter
 
now stutter is a very subjective term, I've seen low fps described as stutter... 

Fren your radar must be out.

Randr - specs posted on post 3218,

Firstly the PC setup.
i5, 3.33Ghz CPU, 4GB Ram
NVidia GTX 670
Win7 64bit
I have updated to the latest NVidia drivers.

Video Card is running two screens.
PinDMD2 for.the DMD.

The obvious difference is the cpu. You guys are running an I7??

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:08 AM

Do you have ambient occlusion turned on or off? Do you have any Antialiasing turned on in Nvidia Control Panel?

This is my NVIDIA settings (under manage 3d settings"

 

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and VP settings

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#3253 randr

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:09 AM

I5 is what I run and is plenty. Your card is fine. So must be a setting in vp. Post up a screen of your video preferences in vp

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:11 AM

My nvidia and vp settings pretty much are the same as frens. Aside from the occlusion. I haven't turned that on yet

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:12 AM

Hey BB, that video card your running was high end 4 years ago. I suggest you upgrade to the latest generation if you want to play with the big boys and beta test. Nvidia GTX 970 would be my suggestion. As well, I would recommend doubling your ram to 8GB, I mean my grandma wouldn't run Windows 7 64Bit with 4GB for Pete's sake. Once you do these 2 updates, stutter free guaranteed. Your rig is VP9 friendly, not VP10 ready IMO.

 

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Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz with 16GB running NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560.

 

PS: Here is a fix I recommend for anyone playing VP pinball on a cab with an Nvidia card:

http://pinballarcade...lease-read-this


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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:12 AM

I5 is what I run and is plenty. Your card is fine. So must be a setting in vp. Post up a screen of your video preferences in vp

I was think8ng the same thing. Unless there are background processes running like windows update.....

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:14 AM

I'll post up settings in a tic but in general I've tried all combinations of settings in VP without success.

Everything from all settings OFF to Fast FXAA to 4xAA.

I'll try what you guys have recommended and revert

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:15 AM

Hey BB, that video card your running was high end 4 years ago. I suggest you upgrade to the latest generation if you want to play with the big boys and beta test. Nvidia GTX 970 would be my suggestion. As well, I would recommend doubling your ram to 8GB, I mean my grandma wouldn't run Windows 7 64Bit with 4GB for Pete's sake. Once you do these 2 updates, stutter free guaranteed. Your rig is VP9 friendly, not VP10 ready IMO.
 
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While this is true what he has should work just fine. Yes better system would be better but his specs are plenty good for vp

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#3259 freneticamnesic

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:16 AM

Hey BB, that video card your running was high end 4 years ago. I suggest you upgrade to the latest generation if you want to play with the big boys and beta test. Nvidia GTX 970 would be my suggestion. As well, I would recommend doubling your ram to 8GB, I mean my grandma wouldn't run Windows 7 64Bit with 4GB for Pete's sake. Once you do these 2 updates, stutter free guaranteed. Your rig is VP9 friendly, not VP10 ready IMO.

 

My Specs:

Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz with 16GB running NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560.

 

PS: Here is a fix I recommend for anyone playing VP pinball on a cab with an Nvidia card:

http://pinballarcade...lease-read-this

 

hey I'm running win7 64bit with 3gb ram! no problems lol



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Posted 01 November 2015 - 01:23 AM

 

Hey BB, that video card your running was high end 4 years ago. I suggest you upgrade to the latest generation if you want to play with the big boys and beta test. Nvidia GTX 970 would be my suggestion. As well, I would recommend doubling your ram to 8GB, I mean my grandma wouldn't run Windows 7 64Bit with 4GB for Pete's sake. Once you do these 2 updates, stutter free guaranteed. Your rig is VP9 friendly, not VP10 ready IMO.

 

My Specs:

Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz with 16GB running NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560.

 

PS: Here is a fix I recommend for anyone playing VP pinball on a cab with an Nvidia card:

http://pinballarcade...lease-read-this

 

hey I'm running win7 64bit with 3gb ram! no problems lol

 

 

Dude, you of all people should be running 16GB of ram with all the development, testing and graphics work you do. I am send you $15 bucks to start a RAM fund. No wonder Sopranos VP10 is taking so dang long :)

 

All kidding side, if you tweak your rig, should be stutter free on the latest build of VP10. I test on 3 systems including a laptop with 6GB of RAM and it runs baby butt smooth with all the settings maxed out. 


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