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#2761 tartzani

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Posted 13 September 2021 - 10:48 AM

 

Je pense que vous le savez déjà, mais sur le dernier tableau : Batman (Data East 1991) VPW 1.0.0. Les 4 lampes de gauche sont blanches alors qu'elles devraient être jaunes. Fonctionne bien sur vpx 10.6. Je ne sais pas si le problème vient de la table ou de vpx 10.7.
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need to have this as the image for the primitive

 

 

 

not a beta bug but rather a 10.6 bug :P



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Posted 17 September 2021 - 03:26 AM

Are there any known sound issues with 10.7? I didn't do anything but copy over the 10.7 files and enable the new 7.1 enhanced sound mode and now multiple tables(Addams Family and Medieval Madness most notably) do not play music, only table noises.Many tables DO work however, so it doesn't seem to be any issue with sound card. Copying back over 10.6 files did not resolve this. Does enabling 7.1 enhanced install anything that may interfere?



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Posted 17 September 2021 - 03:35 AM

Are there any known sound issues with 10.7? I didn't do anything but copy over the 10.7 files and enable the new 7.1 enhanced sound mode and now multiple tables(Addams Family and Medieval Madness most notably) do not play music, only table noises.Many tables DO work however, so it doesn't seem to be any issue with sound card. Copying back over 10.6 files did not resolve this. Does enabling 7.1 enhanced install anything that may interfere?

 

You are describing ROM sounds via VpinMAME, as that is what the music is on the tables you mentioned.

 

10.7 itself should have 0 effect on that

You can turn 7.1 audio back off though and run it as normal once to test

 

The 7.1 enhanced is specifically for tables using exciters and at least 6 active audio channels
but i do not think that should have any bearing on vpinmame

Start either one of those roms in vpinmames test function in setup.exe
that will run the ROM with no VPX involved, if you still have no sounds, i do not think it is 10.7

 

There was someone else that had this issue, you might look through this thread
i forget what they found the cause was for them, but it was not 10.7 itself


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Posted 17 September 2021 - 03:35 AM

Are there any known sound issues with 10.7? I didn't do anything but copy over the 10.7 files and enable the new 7.1 enhanced sound mode and now multiple tables(Addams Family and Medieval Madness most notably) do not play music, only table noises.Many tables DO work however, so it doesn't seem to be any issue with sound card. Copying back over 10.6 files did not resolve this. Does enabling 7.1 enhanced install anything that may interfere?

Well I think I solved this quickly. For reasons I can't explain, upgrading to 10.7 causes my front channels to be directed to my nonexistent center channel, as I disabled the center channel for giggles and sound now works...



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Posted 17 September 2021 - 10:46 AM

Sorry for my previous post which was not in English.
I think you already know this, but on the last board: Batman (Data East 1991) VPW 1.0.0. The 4 lamps on the left are white when they should be yellow. Works fine on vpx 10.6. I don't know if the problem is with the table or with vpx 10.7.
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Posted 17 September 2021 - 11:29 AM

 

Are there any known sound issues with 10.7? I didn't do anything but copy over the 10.7 files and enable the new 7.1 enhanced sound mode and now multiple tables(Addams Family and Medieval Madness most notably) do not play music, only table noises.Many tables DO work however, so it doesn't seem to be any issue with sound card. Copying back over 10.6 files did not resolve this. Does enabling 7.1 enhanced install anything that may interfere?

Well I think I solved this quickly. For reasons I can't explain, upgrading to 10.7 causes my front channels to be directed to my nonexistent center channel, as I disabled the center channel for giggles and sound now works...

 

Part of that is probably Windows, and part of that is probably just the way the industry as a whole treats 7.1. There appears to be an assumption in configuration that, if you're going with 7.1, that you will have 7 speakers, and there's very few A/V receivers that will let you override this assumption and go with 6 speakers instead. This is worse with anything that's actually using mono sound (which tables like Medieval Madness actually are), because the default assumption is that mono sound belongs purely and 100% in the center speaker.



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Posted 17 September 2021 - 09:06 PM

Plug an exciter into the center channel, and stick it to your backbox.

 

I am going to guess that since VPX inits bass.dll before vpinmame is called

and because the bass.dll that vpx 10.7 has is fully capable of using 7.1 channels for sounds designated as backglass
(yes you can create 8 channel ogg's for backglass sound effects)
and it is already in memory
I am guessing that vpinmame simply uses the bass.dll that is already loaded, rather than calling up the lesser version that it has
which would then make it address the sound system at it's full capability, instead of 2 channel stereo only.

 

That is my guess anyways

 

I may be the only person presently who has a table that has backglass sound effects in DTS 8 channel (And it isnt even a terribly good table as far as pinball goes)

but i imagine that eventually, someone will go and do a good original table, and go and give it dolby surround backglass sound effects.
At least you know you can shove an exciter in the backbox some place for the center tracks to come out of :)

 

Could put an actual speaker too, but that may be a wee bit of a pain to do on an already build cab


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Posted 18 September 2021 - 09:54 AM

Way back in the 10.6 beta thread i requested a small change for us lazy people that when exporting pov files the default file name was populated with the table name. I noticed a while back that it does this now in 10.7 but forgot to say thanks before.

 

So thanks for that and all the other stuff vp dev guys!  :)



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 09:30 PM

Select element function stopped working. It opens the selection windows but it's not shown;

 

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It's not minimized like image manager



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 09:39 PM

What version of 10.7?
and how are you picking the element?

 

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Posted 20 September 2021 - 10:10 PM

10.7rev305

 

That window on your screen doesn't show on mine anymore. It was working this morning but it just stopped. It starts like a minimized window but it can't be selected.

 

Ed: Tried rev310, still doesnt work.


Edited by Emre, 20 September 2021 - 10:15 PM.


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Posted 20 September 2021 - 10:44 PM

10.7rev305

 

That window on your screen doesn't show on mine anymore. It was working this morning but it just stopped. It starts like a minimized window but it can't be selected.

 

Ed: Tried rev310, still doesnt work.

its working for me....
 

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Posted 20 September 2021 - 10:57 PM

 

 

Ed: Tried rev310, still doesnt work.

 

you might need to clear the editor display settings in the vpx registry key?

 

Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Visual Pinball\VP10\Editor


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Posted 20 September 2021 - 11:20 PM

It actually worked, what sorcery is this? Thank you.



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 11:46 PM

 

 

what sorcery is this?

 

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Posted 21 September 2021 - 02:21 AM

 

 

 

Ed: Tried rev310, still doesnt work.

 

you might need to clear the editor display settings in the vpx registry key?

 

Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Visual Pinball\VP10\Editor

 

 

Unfortunately I have to do this frequently when using pup packs for some reason



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Posted 22 September 2021 - 03:26 PM

Hi. I have a trouble with my VP 10.7. When I quit a table, Sub Savehs crash and datas (credits, highscores) are not saved.

I run rev. 310 and the scrip says "Runtime error, line....permission denied."

Anyone knows some solution for that?.

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 04:20 PM

Check the permissions on the "users" folder. Savehs is often EM tables, and those often write to that folder.


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Posted 22 September 2021 - 07:20 PM

Thanks Thalamus, but I think the problem is with VP 10.7. I have run the table in 10.6 and it saves the data in User folder without problems. Opening it again in 10.7 loads the data correctly, but closing it does not save it. I will try to solve it in another way. Anyway thanks again for your reply. Greetings!!



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Posted 22 September 2021 - 08:22 PM

Thanks Thalamus, but I think the problem is with VP 10.7. I have run the table in 10.6 and it saves the data in User folder without problems. Opening it again in 10.7 loads the data correctly, but closing it does not save it. I will try to solve it in another way. Anyway thanks again for your reply. Greetings!!

What table?

Because VPX 10.7 has no inherent problems saving EM table data.

You are getting a permission denied error which generally means it does not have write permissions, folder does not exist, or file is in use elsewhere.

How exactly do you have 10.7 set up?


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