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#2521 jpsalas

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Posted 27 July 2021 - 05:17 PM

This file comes with Windows and I have it, but maybe it is not registered as the article mention. I reinstalled Windows 10 Pro 21H1 for not so long ago, and I have installed just a few programs.

 


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 06:00 PM

 

@DuMichAuch, @clyde, @jpsalas, @wiesshund - I don't think it is hardware related. 
 
When the scripting engine was getting initialized, it executes this chunk of code:
	// This can fail on some systems (I tested with wine 6.9 and this fails)
	// In that case, m_pProcessDebugManager will remain as nullptr
	CoCreateInstance(
		CLSID_ProcessDebugManager,
		0,
		CLSCTX_ALL,
		IID_IProcessDebugManager,
		(LPVOID*)&m_pProcessDebugManager
	);

So `m_pProcessDebugManager` was successfully set for @wiesshund. 

 

 

After Googling "Process Debug Manager", I found this article:

 

https://community.sp...prise-architect

 

 

Various software could have installed PDM.DLL  somewhere along the way.  So maybe @wiesshund you have that dll installed and the other's don't?

 

 

 

 

I've found several pdm.dll in the expected windows subfolders, but maybe unregistered by regsrv32.dll.???

After installing "Remote Tools for Visual Studio 2015 Update 3" as described in the link I have no more crashes for build 282 and later.

After uninstlling the remote tools, the crashes are back...


Edited by DuMichAuch, 27 July 2021 - 06:09 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 06:23 PM

 

@DuMichAuch, @clyde, @jpsalas, @wiesshund - I don't think it is hardware related. 
 
When the scripting engine was getting initialized, it executes this chunk of code:
	// This can fail on some systems (I tested with wine 6.9 and this fails)
	// In that case, m_pProcessDebugManager will remain as nullptr
	CoCreateInstance(
		CLSID_ProcessDebugManager,
		0,
		CLSCTX_ALL,
		IID_IProcessDebugManager,
		(LPVOID*)&m_pProcessDebugManager
	);

So `m_pProcessDebugManager` was successfully set for @wiesshund. 

 

 

After Googling "Process Debug Manager", I found this article:

 

https://community.sp...prise-architect

 

 

Various software could have installed PDM.DLL  somewhere along the way.  So maybe @wiesshund you have that dll installed and the other's don't?

 

 

 

 

You cant manually register PDM.DLL, not any more anyways.
Just in case anyone tries.

 

On my laptop and old desktop, it exists via the app VBSedit, which has a JIT debugger
and so has the dll registered

 

On my normal desktop, it is in place due to VBStudio being installed.

 

For someone with a stock windows install though, they will probably be devoid of a registered PDM.DLL
unless they have some other app which brings it to the table.
Which is strange considering you can find the file in winsxs resources, it just wont do anything of it's own accord.

 

So yea, for general use, probably need a fallback or bypass for that requirement, as i do not foresee the average cab having much installed but basic windows
Possibly in S mode, drivers, and the pinball software they require.
Cant see them installing office 2007 or VBStudio or VBSEdit etc.


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Posted 27 July 2021 - 11:49 PM

That 291 boi.


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Posted 28 July 2021 - 06:28 PM

Can someone point me to installation instructions for vpx 10.7? I have 10.6 installed and working well and don't want to mess it up. I've downloaded the vpx 10.7 files, but can't find anything that says what to do with them.

Thank you.



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 07:07 PM

Can someone point me to installation instructions for vpx 10.7? I have 10.6 installed and working well and don't want to mess it up. I've downloaded the vpx 10.7 files, but can't find anything that says what to do with them.

Thank you.

Unzip them into the VPX folder (rename your present VpinballX.exe to VpinballX 10.6.exe 1st, and if you made custom changes to scripts\vpmkeys.vbs, back it up also)
all to replace all

 

VPMkeys in case you made custom keymaps, and the exe incase you need to run something in 10.6 if you find some incompatibility with a specific table


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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:05 PM

Thank You - especially for the tip on renaming 10.6 first.

Now if I can just figure out how to rotate the playfield to 90 degrees from 270.



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:50 PM

I use seperate folders for 10.6 and 10.7.  In the VPX7 folder i have created symbolic links for needed stuff from VPX6



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 09:14 PM

Thank You - especially for the tip on renaming 10.6 first.
Now if I can just figure out how to rotate the playfield to 90 degrees from 270.

 
click the backglass icon left side of editor
Set rotation to 90 degrees instead of 270
 
You could try exporting a POV named AutoPOV.pov
and then edit it in notepad++ and try removing the other geometry tags
and just leave the rotation tag, i think that works
 
So example
NORMAL fullscreen section
 
<fullscreen>
		<inclination>5.000000</inclination>
		<fov>35.600021</fov>
		<layback>48.000000</layback>
		<rotation>270.000000</rotation>
		<xscale>0.897600</xscale>
		<yscale>1.080000</yscale>
		<zscale>1.000000</zscale>
		<xoffset>-6.500000</xoffset>
		<yoffset>-0.000000</yoffset>
		<zoffset>-300.000000</zoffset>
	</fullscreen>
Modified fullscreen section
 

<fullscreen>
<rotation>90.000000</rotation>
</fullscreen>

Edited by wiesshund, 28 July 2021 - 09:15 PM.

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 09:22 PM

Installed 10.7 - am able to run previously downloaded 10.6 tables that I rotated the playfield to 90 degrees. However, when I load a new 10.7 table, the playfield is at 270 degrees and - unlike VPX10.6 - can't find any menu or way to rotate it to 90 degrees in any 10.7 menu.

Anybody know what I'm missing? It was so easy and convenient in 10.6.



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 09:40 PM

Installed 10.7 - am able to run previously downloaded 10.6 tables that I rotated the playfield to 90 degrees. However, when I load a new 10.7 table, the playfield is at 270 degrees and - unlike VPX10.6 - can't find any menu or way to rotate it to 90 degrees in any 10.7 menu.

Anybody know what I'm missing? It was so easy and convenient in 10.6.

 

Not gonna explain

 

Just gonna draw it

Jc3Rsns.png

 

make more sense this way?

 

Technically it works the same way


Edited by wiesshund, 28 July 2021 - 09:41 PM.

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 09:59 PM

This picture is absolutely worth 1000 words. Thank you!! For this and the other help you've given over the past year.



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 10:08 PM

This picture is absolutely worth 1000 words. Thank you!! For this and the other help you've given over the past year.

 

Help will always be given at Hogwarts, to those who ask for it.

 

(And also death by mass groups of psychopathic wizards and strange animals, but that's left out of the brochure)


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Posted 29 July 2021 - 10:02 PM

VP 10.7 why can't I see the thumbnails in the image manager Since switching from 10.6 to 10.7, I don't see any thumbnails in the image manager - n / a why .... someone have an idea why that is ... see photo This is disadvantageous for personal editing of the table

 

image-manager-nnt2.jpg



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Posted 29 July 2021 - 10:05 PM

VP 10.7 why can't I see the thumbnails in the image manager Since switching from 10.6 to 10.7, I don't see any thumbnails in the image manager - n / a why .... someone have an idea why that is ... see photo This is disadvantageous for personal editing of the table

 

image-manager-nnt2.jpg

 

Open table in edit mode rather than play mode and you will see them
right click table and pick edit when opening it


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Posted 30 July 2021 - 10:56 AM

If it were possible to read the "value" of the EMReel of each digit (as for the rotation angle of the flippers, spinners, gates),

I suppose it must also be a decimal value if we also consider the motor steps.



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Posted 04 August 2021 - 07:23 PM

I'm trying the latest revision, 292, and I'm getting this error about the script, but I haven't even opened the script. The script pops up for a second, white, without text, and then VPX quits. It has happened two times in about 1 hour of testing a table. I don't know how to reproduce it, I was simply shooting balls with the mouse to test lanes and loops. I put the crash.txt here in case it has any meaning to you.

 

 

 

Crash report VPX rev292 (84e7240)
============
Process: VPinballX.exe
Reason: 0xC0000005 - EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0023:00504CE7
Attempt to read from 0x00000000
Thread ID: 0x2634 [9780]
 
Call stack
==========
00504CE7 VPinballX.exe (0x0019E604 0x004F85D0 0x00000000 0x00000000)
004F87B4 VPinballX.exe (0x03284E3C 0x1C7E40E8 0xFFFFFFFF86664004 0x09b447f8)
722154C5 vbscript.dll DllGetClassObject + 0x1C55 (0x1C7E40E8 0x09AC95E0 0x09B447F8 0x0019e7b8)
722153EB vbscript.dll DllGetClassObject + 0x1B7B (0xFFFFFFFF86664004 0x09AC95E0 0x0386D2E8 0x0019e7b8)
7220BD43 vbscript.dll (0x0019E9A0 0xFFFFFFFF96EEC9F2 0x09BDAFF0 0x0019e9a0)
722079BE vbscript.dll (0x0019E9A0 0x0019E8C8 0x722077F0 0x1c877200)
722078D5 vbscript.dll (0x0019E9A0 0x00000000 0x09BDAFF0 0x00000000)
7220AE55 vbscript.dll (0x00000000 0xFFFFFFFF96EEC442 0x09BDB010 0x00000000)
722079BE vbscript.dll (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x09B447F8 0x0386a630)
722078D5 vbscript.dll (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x09BDB010 0x09bdb010)
7220D35A vbscript.dll (0x1C877AC0 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000)
721F69DF vbscript.dll (0x1C7D0340 0x00000514 0x006262B4 0x00000400)
004B4130 VPinballX.exe (0x00000514 0x0019EC74 0x0D2F1ED0 0x00005c1c)
 
Environment
===========
Date/time: 4/8/2021, 21:17:46:342
Number of CPUs: 16
Processor type: 586
System: Windows 10 (10.0 19043)
 
Memory status
=============
Total Reserved: 173632K (169M) bytes
Total Commited: 792992K (774M) bytes
Total Free: 3227616K (3151M) bytes
Largest Free: 2095480K (2046M) bytes
 
Registers
=========
EAX=00000000 EBX=0019E550 ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000
ESI=00000002 EDI=03284E3C EBP=00000000 ESP=0019EC50 EIP=00533CB5
FLG=00010202 CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
 
 
Mini dump saved successfully.

Edited by jpsalas, 04 August 2021 - 07:24 PM.

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Posted 05 August 2021 - 06:43 AM

2 Release updates windows 10  today has killed 10.7 just opens then closes strait away after having updates done, Have tried rollback and is still crashing. All runtimes updated. Nothing has changed only the updates from Microsoft

 

CRASH LOG

 

Crash report VPX rev3788
============
Process: vpinballx.exe
Reason: 0xC0000005 - EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0023:00519538
Attempt to read from 0x0000020C
Thread ID: 0x89C [2204]
 
Call stack
==========
00519538 vpinballx.exe (0x00000001 0x0019E948 0x000001EA 0x0b029170)
004853DB vpinballx.exe (0x02DCDEA0 0x09E9F000 0x00000000 0x02e2e348)
004BA4EB vpinballx.exe (0x02E39910 0x77635C7E 0x00000000 0x00000000)
77635C7E ntdll.dll RtlAllocateHeap + 0x3E (0x02D80000 0x00000000 0x000000A0 0x0019e598)
75569086 combase.dll PropVariantCopy + 0x456 (0x0019E594 0x7679DD3B 0x7679DDBA 0x00000000)
767A3A3C coml2.dll StgOpenStorageOnILockBytes + 0x21CC (0x00000000 0x02E39910 0x767A0D28 0x0a0d0a98)
 
Environment
===========
Date/time: 27/3/2021, 13:02:15:812
Number of CPUs: 12
Processor type: 586
System: Windows 10 (10.0 19042)
 
Memory status
=============
Total Reserved: 74844K (73M) bytes
Total Commited: 382008K (373M) bytes
Total Free: 3737388K (3649M) bytes
Largest Free: 2095460K (2046M) bytes
 
Registers
=========
EAX=00000000 EBX=0B029170 ECX=09E9F000 EDX=00000001
ESI=0019E948 EDI=0019E960 EBP=00000000 ESP=0019E5A8 EIP=767A0D19
FLG=00210246 CS=0023 DS=002B SS=002B ES=002B FS=0053 GS=002B
 
 
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Posted 05 August 2021 - 07:12 AM

@vpxfx3fp : Your beta is too old - get the newest official beta release before reporting.


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Posted 05 August 2021 - 08:34 AM

@Thalamus  Hey thanks for the reply, I have the version which is posted in the first post, uploaded