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[boslaw]

So I have one strip on the right with data and power feeding the bottom, and a separate strip on the left feeding data and power at the top. The strips are not physically daisy chained (right strip uses orange wires, left strip uses blue). Would I be BottomUpAlternateRightLeft for both strips?

[Outhere]

When you say bottom does that mean on the end where you stand to play the Pinball

the data can only be hooked up one way - because The data will only flow in one way

[boslaw]

Bottom means by the player/plunger.

 

I have data flowing into the bottom of the rightPF strip. Arrows on my strip point towards the backglass. I cut the strip off at the top of the cab (by the back glass). 

For the leftPFstrip, I have data flowing in from the top of the strip (by the backglass). Arrows on my strip point down (towards the player)

 

LEDS are working now - just not sure if they're working correctly. The LED effects don't seem to entirely sync up to what I'm doing in the game and they seem like they are coming from opposite where they should be.

 

I don't get any effects from the LED strips in PinballX - only in VP

[Outhere]

<LedStripArrangement>TopDownLeftRight</LedStripArrangement> There are several choices that can be used here like BottomUpLeftRight.  This determines the order of LEDs that the Teensy sends out on its signal path.  If you use TopDown then the furthest LED from the connecting wires will be the first one in the segnal pathway.  I needed this because I wanted my Teensy Board in the back of the machine by the power supplies to make the shorted wiring runs.

 

 

GlobalConfig_PinballX.xml

 

 I just made a copy of the file GlobalConfig_b2SServer.xml, and renamed it GlobalConfig_PinballX.xml. Needed for Pinball X addressable LED effects.

[webby]

Hi Guys,

I am new to DOF and have a quick question about the setup of the Config tool.

I assume the Combos are what is attached to Ports 1 and 4 but I have an 8x72 LED matrix and have set it like this.

 

 

Am I on the right path?

 

Thanks,

Webster

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[Outhere]

http://vpuniverse.co...s#comment-30746

[webby]

Got it thanks.

 

If I don't use Pinball X and say use Pinup Popper or Hyperpin, will the PBX work or should I just replace with the back beacon?

Thanks for the Reply.

 

Webster

[M4T VW]

I use pinup popper and it seems to all work fine still. Don't have pinballX installed at all.

 

Pinup popper also gives DOF effects when you change table (press left or right to scroll through the tables)

[nickbuol]

Quick question.

 

In Windows 10, does the Teensy board show up in Device Manager as anything special, or just another generic USB Device?

 

I tried using a slightly modified version of TerryRed's cabinet.xml as what was shared with me back a few posts, and dropped everything else (no Zebsboards for example), and I still got nothing last night... 

 

One thing that I went back and checked was the COM port of the Teensy board, so that is when I looked for which port it was using for the modified cabinet.xml that I thought that maybe it was supposed to look different somehow...  Then our internet went out and I spent a few hours dealing with that (still not working 100% and the "tech" comes out on Wednesday). 

 

Anyway, tonight I am going to split he 3 pieces of this LED strip combo into a left, right, and matrix individually using the 3 different twisted pairs in my network cable.  I figured that I could ask this question while I break out the soldering iron and heat shrink to make a proper cable.

 

On a side note, I am able to open the Teensy app and it sees the board fine, and I have tested it with the fast and slow blink test code, and then back to the TeensyStripController 1.02 code for LED strip management.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Ooo.  2nd question.  I just need the TeensyStripController code, and nothing specifically for the Octoboard, right?

Edited by nickbuol, 28 August 2018 - 02:25 AM.

[Outhere]

generic USB Device

What I did is plugged in the Teensy board and see what port showed up and then I unplugged it to see which one went away then I knew which port...

 

 

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Edited by Outhere, 28 August 2018 - 02:49 AM.

[Outhere]

It has been a while but I believe this is what I use when I bought my board

Go down to installation of Firmware

https://github.com/D...Teensy-Firmware

[nickbuol]

generic USB Device

What I did is plugged in the Teensy board and see what port showed up and then I unplugged it to see which one went away then I knew which port...

 

 

Device Manager teensy.jpg

Ha,  That is exactly what I did.  I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't supposed to show up as something specific, and that the generic device was normal.  Thanks for confirming for me.

It has been a while but I believe this is what I use when I bought my board

Go down to installation of Firmware

https://github.com/D...Teensy-Firmware

Same here.  Looks like I did it right.  Just trying to confirm all of these things while messing with my wiring tonight and you have come through for me.  Thanks.

It was mentioned above that M4T VW is using the following CAT6 pairs:

 

Left Orange pair

Matrix Blue pair

Right Green pair

 

But in a few previous posts going back towards the beginning of this whole discussion, others mentioned the Orange pair for the right, Green for the left.  Orange is supposed to be the 1st LED strip I believe, and it should just be a settings change to pick what strip is set to what Cat6 colored pair, right?

 

I feel like since i am having so many problems, I am now over analyzing everything...

[Outhere]

I have

Orange on the right

Blue on the left

Green in the back

I don't think it matters you just have To assign the right ports to the right wire...

When your Teensy board should be working is it flashing fast?

 

  my GlobalConfig_B2SServer.xml  and cabinet.xml  file

 

Spoiler

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!--Global configuration for the DirectOutput framework.-->
<!--Saved by DirectOutput Version 0.8.6002.28451: 2016-09-25 10-00-34-->
<GlobalConfig>
  <LedWizDefaultMinCommandIntervalMs>1</LedWizDefaultMinCommandIntervalMs>
  <LedControlMinimumEffectDurationMs>60</LedControlMinimumEffectDurationMs>
  <LedControlMinimumRGBEffectDurationMs>120</LedControlMinimumRGBEffectDurationMs>
  <IniFilesPath />
  <ShapeDefintionFilePattern>E:\DirectOutput\config\DirectOutputShapes.xml</ShapeDefintionFilePattern>
  <CabinetConfigFilePattern>E:\DirectOutput\config\Cabinet.xml</CabinetConfigFilePattern>
  <TableConfigFilePatterns />
  <EnableLogging>true</EnableLogging>
  <ClearLogOnSessionStart>true</ClearLogOnSessionStart>
  <LogFilePattern>E:\DirectOutput\DirectOutput.log</LogFilePattern>
</GlobalConfig>

 

--------

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<Cabinet xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/20...Schema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
  <Name>TimoPin</Name>
   <OutputControllers>

    
    <TeensyStripController>
     <Name>LEDStripController</Name>
      <NumberOfLedsStrip1>129</NumberOfLedsStrip1>
      <NumberOfLedsStrip2>129</NumberOfLedsStrip2>
      <NumberOfLedsStrip3>384</NumberOfLedsStrip3>
      <NumberOfLedsStrip4>0</NumberOfLedsStrip4>
      <NumberOfLedsStrip5>0</NumberOfLedsStrip5>
      <NumberOfLedsStrip6>0</NumberOfLedsStrip6>
      <NumberOfLedsStrip7>0</NumberOfLedsStrip7>
      <NumberOfLedsStrip8>0</NumberOfLedsStrip8>
      <ComPortName>COM4</ComPortName>
    </TeensyStripController>
    
   </OutputControllers>
   
   <Toys>
 

    <LedStrip>
      <Name>PF Right</Name>
      <Width>1</Width>
      <Height>129</Height>
      <LedStripArrangement>BottomUpLeftRight</LedStripArrangement>
      <ColorOrder>GRB</ColorOrder>
      <FirstLedNumber>1</FirstLedNumber>
      <FadingCurveName>SwissLizardsLedCurve</FadingCurveName>
      <OutputControllerName>LEDStripController</OutputControllerName>
    </LedStrip>
   
   
    <LedStrip>
      <Name>PF Left</Name>
      <Width>1</Width>
      <Height>129</Height>
      <LedStripArrangement>BottomUpLeftRight</LedStripArrangement>
      <ColorOrder>GRB</ColorOrder>
      <FirstLedNumber>130</FirstLedNumber>
      <FadingCurveName>SwissLizardsLedCurve</FadingCurveName>
      <OutputControllerName>LEDStripController</OutputControllerName>
    </LedStrip>


   <LedStrip>
      <Name>PF Back</Name>
      <Width>48</Width>
      <Height>8</Height>
      <LedStripArrangement>BottomUpAlternateRightLeft</LedStripArrangement>
      <ColorOrder>GRB</ColorOrder>
      <FirstLedNumber>259</FirstLedNumber>
      <FadingCurveName>SwissLizardsLedCurve</FadingCurveName>
      <OutputControllerName>LEDStripController</OutputControllerName>
    </LedStrip>
    


   <LedWizEquivalent>
   <Name>LedWizEquivalent 30</Name>
    <Outputs>
    <LedWizEquivalentOutput>
     <OutputName>PF Back</OutputName>
     <LedWizEquivalentOutputNumber>7</LedWizEquivalentOutputNumber>
    </LedWizEquivalentOutput>    
    <LedWizEquivalentOutput>
     <OutputName>PF Left</OutputName>
     <LedWizEquivalentOutputNumber>4</LedWizEquivalentOutputNumber>
    </LedWizEquivalentOutput>
    <LedWizEquivalentOutput>
     <OutputName>PF Right</OutputName>
     <LedWizEquivalentOutputNumber>1</LedWizEquivalentOutputNumber>
    </LedWizEquivalentOutput>
   </Outputs>
   <LedWizNumber>30</LedWizNumber>
   </LedWizEquivalent>
   </Toys>
 <AutoConfigEnabled>true</AutoConfigEnabled>
</Cabinet>

Edited by Outhere, 28 September 2018 - 06:02 PM.

[webby]

HI,

I am ready to set this up and just have a few questions again, I am no electrician, sorry No artist either!

See the attached image of my potential setup.

 

Does anyone have a switch on the 5V+ line between the dedicated power supply and the LED power injection? Do you need one? If so what rating, is 30A enough?

Does anyone also use a Terminal block. to split the 5V+ lines like my image? If so what rating, is 30A enough?

 

Where does ground from the dedicated power supply go, does it also splice into the points i inject power to LED strips?

 

Sorry, One more question. Does Anyone have a Fuse on the 5V+ line?

 

Thanks in advance,

Webster

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Edited by webby, 29 August 2018 - 03:05 AM.

[boslaw]

@webby

 

I'm no expert and i's a little hard to tell from your pic but it looks like you have power and ground going to your data wires (orange & blue pairs). That would be wrong. You can use a terminal block (yours looks fine) to split power and ground to the power and ground wires for your LED strips but your cat 5 data wires should go to the data wires on your LED strips. My LED strips have 5 wires - red and white for power & ground, and red white green for data. 

 

I don't use a switch on my power feed but I don't see any reason why you couldn't.

 

If you post a pic of your LED strip wires I'm sure someone on the board could help you determine where to connect your power & ground.

[webby]

Hi,

Thanks,

I dont have them yet but looking around the forums, its like this [a better pic]:

Power ground and signal uniquely wired and jumped from each LED strip then every 2 strips (every 144 leds) extra power is spliced in.

 

The signals and grounds only come from the teensy/octo/cat 6, but as i am using a power supply should the ground not also come from this

Thanks again for the help,

Webster

 

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[Outhere]

Have 5v plus going to the strip on the plus side and have the Ground hook to the negative side from power supply

Have the Orange wire from the ethernet cable going to the signal on the correct end and the other wire with the Orange gets hook with the ground

This My Addressable setup

https://www.vpforums...=38892&p=391732

Edited by Outhere, 29 August 2018 - 05:02 AM.

[webby]

Have 5v plus going to the strip on the plus side and have the Ground hook to the negative side from power supply

Have the Orange wire from the ethernet cable going to the signal on the correct end and the other wire with the Orange you have hook with ground

This My Addressable setup

https://www.vpforums...=38892&p=391732

 

 

so wherever i inject power into the LED from 5V, ground from the power supply and ground from the ethernet cable need to be soldered at the same points?

[Outhere]

ground from the ethernet cable need to be soldered at the same points? -- No

What I did is I took each of the ground wires from the Ethernet cable put him together with ground from the power supply

from the power supply I ran separate wires over to each Set of Lights

When your wiring up the ones that are going To require injecting power just Daisy chain them - No Need to run separate wires for every one of those spots all away from the transformer

[webby]

Hi,

Thanks again.

 

Just to get my head around it:

You [can] use a jumped terminal block to connect every ground from the ethernet cat6 to the power supply ground then the ground cable the other side of the terminal block, goes to the 1 ground point on each LED grouping [matrix, left, right strips]

Then on the matrix [only] all other ground points are soldered to create the loop [jumped]

 

When power is daisy chained you still need to splice in power every few strips? Or no need to splice extra power in every few strips?

Webster