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[jpsalas]

 

Hello JP

 

I set in the table script for the ship not to rotate but the edge of the central ship still keeps rotating  

 

the ship is static but the rim continues to rotate, this also happens in the LE version

 

any suggestion of what can be done?

 

thanks hugs

 

 

The ship does not rotate, but the led lights still will do. It is not the edge that rotates but the led lights alternating. They will do that at different speeds, depending how fat you come to destroy the saucer.

[teisen]

 

 

Hello JP

 

I set in the table script for the ship not to rotate but the edge of the central ship still keeps rotating  

 

the ship is static but the rim continues to rotate, this also happens in the LE version

 

any suggestion of what can be done?

 

thanks hugs

 

 

The ship does not rotate, but the led lights still will do. It is not the edge that rotates but the led lights alternating. They will do that at different speeds, depending how fat you come to destroy the saucer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really!

 

it was my mistake... for some reason I unchecked "Force Anisotropic Texture Filtering" and checked "Texture Compression" in the "video/graphics options" settings and it caused this edge spinning effect...

 

I apologize... lol

 

hugs

[jpsalas]

 

 

 

Hello JP

 

I set in the table script for the ship not to rotate but the edge of the central ship still keeps rotating  

 

the ship is static but the rim continues to rotate, this also happens in the LE version

 

any suggestion of what can be done?

 

thanks hugs

 

 

The ship does not rotate, but the led lights still will do. It is not the edge that rotates but the led lights alternating. They will do that at different speeds, depending how fat you come to destroy the saucer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really!

 

it was my mistake... for some reason I unchecked "Force Anisotropic Texture Filtering" and checked "Texture Compression" in the "video/graphics options" settings and it caused this edge spinning effect...

 

I apologize... lol

 

hugs

 

 

Good! Anisotropic is mostly a must for good graphics

[wiesshund]

 

 

and checked "Texture Compression" in the "video/graphics options" settings and it caused this edge spinning effect...

 

 

 

 

LoL
Well enjoy your newly recovered fast loading times after you uncheck texture compression

[tawm]

Loving this table!! I am curious, though, when I play the real table (a remake, admittedly), the cabinet goes nuts with the shaker upon destroying the big ufo. In this version there doesn't seem to be any low end rumble when a ufo is destoryed (lots of great rumble effects for other events, though!). Is this an intentional decision to mimic the original cab or is my setup borked somehow? Couldn't find any relevant setting in the config. 

[jpsalas]

Loving this table!! I am curious, though, when I play the real table (a remake, admittedly), the cabinet goes nuts with the shaker upon destroying the big ufo. In this version there doesn't seem to be any low end rumble when a ufo is destoryed (lots of great rumble effects for other events, though!). Is this an intentional decision to mimic the original cab or is my setup borked somehow? Couldn't find any relevant setting in the config. 

 

I guess you will have to add that yourself to your DOF config or talk to the DOF guys to add it for you.

[wiesshund]

Loving this table!! I am curious, though, when I play the real table (a remake, admittedly), the cabinet goes nuts with the shaker upon destroying the big ufo. In this version there doesn't seem to be any low end rumble when a ufo is destoryed (lots of great rumble effects for other events, though!). Is this an intentional decision to mimic the original cab or is my setup borked somehow? Couldn't find any relevant setting in the config. 

it is a rom table, not a table author's choice

if rumble works for other events then probably not the dofconfig?

may need to check rom settings?

[tawm]

I'm not using DOF, just SSF for my rig so I'm not sure DOF config change would do the trick, but I appreciate the suggestion, JP!  Sounds like my setup might not be misbehaving.

 

Thanks for enlightening me on the fact that it's a rom choice, wiesshund, I do notice I'm using a rom from what looks like the original game so that might be the root cause here. 

 

Thank you both!

[wiesshund]

I'm not using DOF, just SSF for my rig so I'm not sure DOF config change would do the trick, but I appreciate the suggestion, JP!  Sounds like my setup might not be misbehaving.

 

Thanks for enlightening me on the fact that it's a rom choice, wiesshund, I do notice I'm using a rom from what looks like the original game so that might be the root cause here. 

 

Thank you both!

 

In that case, there will be no rumble, as there is no rumbly sound effect being played

You could create one, and i am sure JP would tell you were to place it so it places during the saucer spinning event.

I would make is pretty low range so it is more felt than heard. (hope you have a good sub?)

[tmpc]

 

 

 

Here this bug happens with a certain frequency, I think it should not be difficult to replicate, when the ball is launched and is entering the field it ends up activating the right orbit (atomic blaster) 

 

Yes, it happens from time to time as that trigger is placed just in front of the plunger lane. I guess it must happen too in the real table from time to time, but I can't prove or test that since I have only played once a real AFM

 

Thanks for the awnser! makes sense, it can happen in the real machine, anyway, an amazing table, I can't stop playing!!!

 

 

I can always try to reduce the shape of that trigger, and I even thought about to move the whole trigger a little lower, but the real playfield has the trigger there, so I kept it there And if I get that when launching the ball then I treat it like a bonus

 

And if you feel the flippers a little too bouncy then just reduce their elasticity from 0.8 to 0.7. I don't like much bouncy flippers, since I like them to be more in control of the ball, so in my version I reduce them to 0.6 elasticity (the rest of the parameters are the same) That's almost like cheating

 

This is another example of why i like to read the comments, you can learn so much just by reading them.

I wasn't even looking for this but i know i will use this in a few tables. 

 

[tawm]

 

I'm not using DOF, just SSF for my rig so I'm not sure DOF config change would do the trick, but I appreciate the suggestion, JP!  Sounds like my setup might not be misbehaving.

 

Thanks for enlightening me on the fact that it's a rom choice, wiesshund, I do notice I'm using a rom from what looks like the original game so that might be the root cause here. 

 

Thank you both!

 

In that case, there will be no rumble, as there is no rumbly sound effect being played

You could create one, and i am sure JP would tell you were to place it so it places during the saucer spinning event.

I would make is pretty low range so it is more felt than heard. (hope you have a good sub?)

 

 

Makes sense and your suggestion is super intriguing! I'm quite comfortable with sound design but would definitely appreciate some pointers about where/how to modify the sound files (or add new sound triggers). Any tips would be most welcome but I'll also take this as an opportunity to learn more about rom structure and see if I can't figure it out myself =)

 

And yes, my cab will definitely make use of the low frequencies...I've got (2) BST-1 inside and a ported 8" sub below the cab! All dialed down a bunch but they give me great control! 

Edited by tawm, 27 December 2022 - 09:00 PM.

[tawm]

Following up for anyone in my position that wants to add a bit more SSF impact to the big UFO hits and destruction. Huge thanks to wiesshund for the suggestion!!!

 

- Find a nice punchy bass sample and import it to table sounds. I use this: https://www.dropbox....pi3/sub_hit.wav

- Add one line to call that sound in the function for "BigUFOShake"

 

That function looks like this for me now (added line in bold):

 

Sub BigUfoShake

    cball.velx = -2 + 2 * RND(1)

    cball.vely = -10 + 2 * RND(1)

    PlaySoundAt SoundFX("bass_hit", DOFContactors), ufo1

End Sub

 

Stoked, this is so awesome! Thanks for help, JPSalas and wiesshund!! Such an awesome table and now the experience almost exactly mirrors the real machines in my area! 

Edited by tawm, 09 January 2023 - 10:28 PM.

[wiesshund]

 

Following up for anyone in my position that wants to add a bit more SSF impact to the big UFO hits and destruction. Huge thanks to wiesshund for the suggestion!!!

 

- Find a nice punchy bass sample and import it to table sounds

- Add one line to call that sound in the function for "BigUFOShake"

 

That function looks like this for me now (added line in bold):

 

Sub BigUfoShake

    cball.velx = -2 + 2 * RND(1)

    cball.vely = -10 + 2 * RND(1)

    PlaySoundAt SoundFX("bass_hit", DOFContactors), ufo1

End Sub

 

Stoked, this is so awesome! Thanks for help, JPSalas and wiesshund!! Such an awesome table and now the experience almost exactly mirrors the real machines in my area! 

 

 

maybe share the sound?

people might have a bit of trouble finding a rumbly sound

[tawm]

Good call! After some trial and error, I found that this sound gets pretty close to the real deal:

 

https://www.dropbox....pi3/sub_hit.wav

[STAT]

About all the global news for UFO sightings - don't play this Table for a while !
 
or: play and help, to shoot down all the ...

Edited by STAT, 15 February 2023 - 03:35 PM.

[jpsalas]

UPDATE

 

5.0.0 Released 29.06.2023

- fixed wall visibility issue with VPX 10.8

- new flipper code thanks to JlouLouLou

- Updated for VPX8

 

This is only for VPX8 as it includes many changes that are only available in VPX8, like the flashers being linked to a light, or the animations done directly by VPX8 and bot by running a fast timer. 

Also the ball is an equirectangular ball, so it will look much better in a cabinet or in VR (although the table has no VR cabinet nor room)

 

About the ball, anyone with a better equirectangular ball?

Edited by jpsalas, 29 June 2023 - 03:25 PM.

[digitalarts]

For me, your ball looks ok 🤣

[teisen]

what is the most appropriate version of VPX8 to run the tables?

 

the files that I downloaded, after being installed, they are not working for me... I open Visual Pinball, I load the table but when I run it it gives an error, apparently from windows saying that the program has stopped working and needs to be closed...

[jpsalas]

For me, your ball looks ok

 

It is the best image I found, and I tried hundreds of them

 

 

what is the most appropriate version of VPX8 to run the tables?

 

the files that I downloaded, after being installed, they are not working for me... I open Visual Pinball, I load the table but when I run it it gives an error, apparently from windows saying that the program has stopped working and needs to be closed...

 

 

Download the latest at github, here: Releases · vpinball/vpinball (github.com)

or you can also go to the Actions, and download the latest beta. 

You only need the one called VpinballX-10.8.0-xxx-Release-win-x86.zip

and remember to overwrite everything, not only the exe. I'm not sure about the changes in the extra dll files or the scripts, but copying only the exe has never been the thing to do

[3rdaxis]

Fantastic update. Can't believe how good this looks. Thank you brother.