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#201 The Loafer

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 03:59 AM

I have only been using both of these version (Physmod and vp9.9.0) and so far, it hasn't locked up on me at all.  Crosses fingers!



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Posted 01 October 2014 - 04:06 AM

Hmm..must have been a fluke but seemed to be related to coining up cyclone quick...but only happened a couple times and have never had that happen before? Just installed it tonight so will test it more in the next few days

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 07:52 AM

 

 

Would it be possible, is to use a potentiometer with this card? 

it Would Be more accurate and less expensive.

 

I assume you're talking about using a potentiometer for the plunger sensor.  It would be possible to use it with this *card*, but not with this software - the software is specifically written for the CCD.  It's open-source, though, so you're free to fork the code base and add potentiometer plunger support if you want.  The card has an ADC input, which could be used to read the voltage on the pot and thereby deduce its position.  

 

A potentiometer would be less expensive, but more accurate?  Could you explain your thinking there?  I can't imagine how a potentiometer could be anywhere near as accurate or as precise.  The CCD gives an absolute position to about 1/50 of an inch (with the default settings in the software - the device itself actually has 400 dpi resolution, but for the sake of faster read cycles the software I only sample at about 50 dpi).  By absolute position, I mean that each pixel has a fixed position in space relative to the plunger, so there's simply no possibility of calibration drift.  Potentiometer joysticks are notorious for calibration drift - they're sensitive to things like temperature and variations in the reference voltage from the power supply.  And it would be hard to get precision at the 50 dpi level - if you tried to digitize the voltage that finely you'd probably see a lot of jitter from thermal noise.

 

 

ho ok, 

i want use ppc27, what do you think of that ?

 

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:21 AM

Yesterday I have played Taxi.

With this table it is not possible for me to get a 100% shoot with the plunger.

Can someone confirm this behavior?



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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:39 AM

Yesterday I have played Taxi.

With this table it is not possible for me to get a 100% shoot with the plunger.

Can someone confirm this behavior?

 

You probably need to adjust the plunger properties on the table.  Try increasing the "mechanical strength" setting.  (Open the game in the VP editor, select the Plunger object, and click the Options button on the left tool bar to bring up the properties pane.)  I think the default mech strength is something like 85.  On many tables I find it's necessary to increase it to the 120 range to get the right effect - some a bit higher, some a bit lower.  You just have to experiment with it until it feels right.  

 

Another thing that sometimes helps is to reposition the plunger object upwards slightly (towards the back of the table) so that it has slightly more contact with the ball in the rest position.  Some tables that weren't designed for mechanical plungers don't have enough contact to get the physics right because they normally do their launching via scripting.  The moving trick helps especially when it seems like the ball doesn't react at all until the plunger is pulled back most or all of the way, but it does have enough force to launch when pulled back all the way.  Moving it will get a better range of speeds at shorter pulls.



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Posted 05 October 2014 - 02:47 PM

Is there any change that this will work with another CCD then the TAOS TSL 1410R ?

 

I can order @ mouser from Holland, the part is € 30,44 and the shipping is € 20,00, seems a bit steep and I don't really need other parts. Free shipping is from €65,00

 

Can't find the part anywhere else sadly.


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 04:08 PM

Today I have contacted a manufacturer from China about TSL1410R, and I will let you know as soon as I get some reply.



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Posted 05 October 2014 - 05:47 PM

Is there any change that this will work with another CCD then the TAOS TSL 1410R ?
 
I can order @ mouser from Holland, the part is € 30,44 and the shipping is € 20,00, seems a bit steep and I don't really need other parts. Free shipping is from €65,00
 
Can't find the part anywhere else sadly.

Perhaps you could try to find someone else interested in netherland and make a grouped order ?
They made one in france from our french pincab forum ;)

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 04:31 AM

Is there any change that this will work with another CCD then the TAOS TSL 1410R ?

 

I can order @ mouser from Holland, the part is € 30,44 and the shipping is € 20,00, seems a bit steep and I don't really need other parts. Free shipping is from €65,00

 

Can't find the part anywhere else sadly.

 

If you can find another part that has the physical dimensions needed, let me know and I can take a look to see if there'd be any way to adapt the software.  That TAOS sensor is the only one I've found that's such a perfect fit, but once I discovered it I didn't look much further precisely because it is such a perfect fit.



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Posted 06 October 2014 - 05:04 PM

hello, 

we also installing the card. 
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thx for your job :)
 


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:02 PM

MJR, I have a question for you regarding the Freescale code. I would rather not publicly post it, and your PMS are turned off.. 


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:04 PM

MJR, I have a question for you regarding the Freescale code. I would rather not publicly post it, and your PMS are turned off.. 


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 05:19 PM

MJR, I have a question for you regarding the Freescale code. I would rather not publicly post it, and your PMS are turned off.. 

 

They are???  No idea how that happened, and in fact I can't see a way to turn them on or off.  If someone could point me to the settings page for that, I'll re-enable them.



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Posted 07 October 2014 - 05:27 PM

I tried to pm you after clicking your name and this error came up

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 05:46 PM

I tried to pm you after clicking your name and this error came up

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Bizarre!  I did just get your test PM, so at least the messages are getting through even if the UI is having a problem.



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 03:35 PM

hello,
card work fine.
but the tilt doesn't work. 
you have a solution for this?


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Posted 08 October 2014 - 04:18 PM

 

hello,
card work fine.
but the tilt doesn't work. 
you have a solution for this?

 

Some folks have had success setting their "tilt sensitivity" in VP to 950.  It also "worked" for me, however I had to practically tip my cabinet over to get it to work.  I think there needs to be some revision to VP for it to be better.

 

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 05:28 PM

I tested several values. I shook very hard card but it does not work. :(  with vp and pm5 


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Posted 08 October 2014 - 05:45 PM

I can report after installing the latest firmware and setting the VP settings as outlined in the install doc. it works flawless.


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Posted 08 October 2014 - 05:57 PM

when was the last version? I download Monday