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[ClarkKent]

It was not my intention to offend you, I'm only reporting my thoughts to make the table even more perfect. Other players do the same.

[jpsalas]

Hey Dozer, I guess you simply converted the vp9 to vpx, the problem is that when I made that table I was using a table's width of 1024 (historical reasons when I was making tables for VP7, as I wanted then to fill the screen as much as possible with a very short apron, since VP at that time didn't have zoom possibilities). With a table with of 1024 you get the proportions wrong, so the flippers must be 130 or more instead 118 with the right width, for ex. 964. Also the lanes becomes too wide, so the ball passes through must faster, and also the ball is smaller than it was supposed to be. That's why I didn't want any conversion of my tables directly to vpx, because of this width problem. There is no problem is you are aware if it and increase the ball size at the same time, 50*1024/964 = 53. But the best is to make the tables with the right length and width as it is shown in the dimension manager.

[Dozer316]

Hey Dozer, I guess you simply converted the vp9 to vpx, the problem is that when I made that table I was using a table's width of 1024 (historical reasons when I was making tables for VP7, as I wanted then to fill the screen as much as possible with a very short apron, since VP at that time didn't have zoom possibilities). With a table with of 1024 you get the proportions wrong, so the flippers must be 130 or more instead 118 with the right width, for ex. 964. Also the lanes becomes too wide, so the ball passes through must faster, and also the ball is smaller than it was supposed to be. That's why I didn't want any conversion of my tables directly to vpx, because of this width problem. There is no problem is you are aware if it and increase the ball size at the same time, 50*1024/964 = 53. But the best is to make the tables with the right length and width as it is shown in the dimension manager.

 

Cheers JP, I know the dimensions are a throwback to your old work and yes the table is a direct conversion.   I personally am not concerned about the inaccuracy so have just ported a few tables from 9 directly to 10 without being too concerned about table dimensions.    I will however do this on any future tables I find the time to port for the sake of accuracy.

It was not my intention to offend you, I'm only reporting my thoughts to make the table even more perfect. Other players do the same.

 

I know you only want to make the table better. My issue isn't with you wanting it to be the best it can be it's how you sometimes deliver your thoughts.

 

Sometimes after you've spent a couple of hundred hours doing something, it's nice to get some feedback that contains an offer of help or a solution to a problem rather than a wish list.

 

I.e. rather than "const ballsize is usless if it can't be adjusted" - how about "Here's a list of walls. ramp heights etc, that need to be made to allow the proper ball size of "53".

[Dozer316]

A quick fix for the menagerie ball constant spinning (didn't notice this as I was not using a ball logo).

 

Select layer 1 in the editor and then move mouse to the ball cage and select the wall named RMs3

 

In the physics tab on the right hand side - change the wall friction to 1 instead of 0.

 

Easier just to do this in the editor than upload a new revision at the moment.

 

I will update the post with a new revision when I get time.

[ClarkKent]

Funny that JP is telling the same thing. At least I'm not crazy and the ball is really too small...

Sorry for any harsh words, was not my intension. I thought we are man and not whiny girls, so talking straight...

[Dozer316]

Don't bring gender into it, you can talk straight, just do it with a modicum of social intelligence.

[Dozer316]

Version 4 - Fixed a friction issue with the captive (Menagerie Ball)

 

https://mega.nz/#!7I...O01YOFLGmJFl2nQ

Edited by Dozer316, 24 October 2015 - 02:27 PM.

[ClarkKent]

It's hard to put every single word on a balance pan...

[ICPjuggla]

Dozer not sure if your aware of it but here is an ignore feature on this sight.

Click your name in the top right, select manage ignore prefs then there is a box to add a members name to ignore with a bunch of options. You won't see posts by them unless they are quoted. It works great, I highly recommend it.. ;-)

[ClarkKent]

The most insulting member has just been put there...

[jpsalas]

Actually it is quite easy to convert a VP9 table from 1024 to a VPX table with a width 952 or 964. If the table will be 964, then just take 964 divide it by 1024 then you get 0.9414, Now select all the objects and scale them by 0.9414. You'll see that all the objects are scaled but some will need some attention, mostly ramps and primitives. Change the width of the table to 964 and then you can find the point that originally was at coordinates 0,0 and take a note of the new coordinates, say 22.67, 55,43 (this is just an example). Now you can move all the objects 22.67 to the left and 55,43 up. You are going to replace many of the objects like the pegs which used to made with ramps. So I guess it is just a few hours extra work. At least it sounds easy to me, hahaha.

[vampirolatino2]

Dozer thanks a LOT for the time spend doing these changes/revisions ... I know is not easy to please everyone but count me impressed by your work. Keep up the awesome job. I do appreciate it.... and everyone else contribution (uploads, sharing hdr files, sharing fs settings, etc etc)

 

Thanks everybody!

[bassgeige]

Thank you very much to everyone who made this outcome possible! :-) I enjoy it very much.

 

Let us celebrate and focus to the wonderful pinball world.

(Everything else what may cause a small dispute in former replies posts is already belonging to the past.) I know how it feels to support a file to the end and also I can understand that sometimes a word can be easy misleading to an unwanted situation which was not intended.)

 

What a happy day!

Edited by bassgeige, 24 October 2015 - 03:36 PM.

[BorgDog]

Just put up an update to my Gemini table with DOF support added by arngrim and a few other minor tweaks.  

 

Download here: https://dl.dropboxus...tlieb 1977).zip

 

 

[vampirolatino2]

Thanks Borg!

[Umpa]

Agreed thank you all for the countless hours and hard work!

[delt31]

guys - getting an error when trying to test - 

 

67 - controller

 

what is that?

 

also - tales from the crypt file is no longer avail.

 

thanks!

[freneticamnesic]

guys - getting an error when trying to test - 

 

67 - controller

 

what is that?

 

also - tales from the crypt file is no longer avail.

 

thanks!

 

working TFTC in my sig (at least the link is working.....don't know if table still works)

and 67 - controller probably means line 67 it's trying to load a controller you don't use, like directb2s, you need to change the controller to vpinmame in the script 

What game are you trying to load that gives you that error?

[delt31]

judge dredd......JDVP10_5 and1

 

it's def controller but I don't know where to change it....  : (  says object required controller 67 and 1636

 

btw your table works perfectly fine (TFTC)

Edited by delt31, 24 October 2015 - 11:58 PM.

[Outhere]

judge dredd......JDVP10_5 and1

 

it's def controller but I don't know where to change it....  : (  says object required controller 67 and 1636

 

btw your table works perfectly fine (TFTC)

If you only have one screen than change it to this controller   --- VPinMAME

http://www.vpforums....383#entry318484

Edited by Outhere, 25 October 2015 - 12:19 AM.