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[gtxjoe]

Hi guys,
 
maybe somebody already asked in this long thread. Does anybody else have issues with choppy puppack playback when using the 10.7 beta ? I get really noticeable stutter in the video's.
 
Thanks !
 
Regards
 
Jack
 

Loading video stutter when launching the table? Or when playing a table with a pup pack?

There is a command line option -lesscputhreads for the loading video stutter

[breikers]

Hi gtxjoe, the video stutter is present when playing a table with a pup pack. So I guess the command line option does not apply in this case ?

[zekill]

 

Hi guys, i don't sure if it's know :

Mata Hari or AFM 3.02 JPsalas ( perhaps others ) in cabinet mode.

F6, change lights or camera setup, save table -> bumpers and slingshots are now inactive.

Did you use 10.6.X or 10.7 beta to save?

Hello Dev Team.

 

Thanks for all your work.

 

I don't know it this could be considered a bug but if "Alternative Depth Buffer processing" is checked in Video/Graphics options, 3D stereo doesn't work.

 

Tested on Win10 x64, VPX 10.7.0 release 169

 

Steps to reproduce it:

 

Open Visual Pinball > Preferences > Video/Graphics Options ... > Check the "Alternative Depth Buffer processing" box > Pull down the "3D Stereo Output" and select "TB (Top/Bottom)" option.

Load any table > press F5 to start it > press F10 to start the 3D Stereo mode.

Unfortunately the alternative depth buffer is only a last resort and does not support everything..  :/

Clone bug material, if I clone a material and rename it with a name in previous alphabetical order, a dozen extra materials with the same name are created.

 

In the official version VPX06 if I do the same test, the cloning of the material enters an infinite loop of cloning.

 

An alphabetical reordering of the material, before cloning the material, makes the cloning work correctly.

I don't exactly get your repro steps, what do you mean with 'previous alphabetical order'??

Do you maybe have a table for me with exact repro steps for that one?

 

10.7 beta to save, I found others tables with issues but don't remember names. the alternative solution is to export a pov file without saving table after pov or lighting changes, thanks.

[RusstyT]

Hi VP7 development team.

Id like to do some graphics and light adjustments for Wizball's ShovelKnight Table but Im unable to see the background image in VP7. Can you please give me some advice around the current playfield image view in the Editor

I ticked playfield image but  the image is not shown in the editor. Also there is no thumb nail image shown in the image manager like in VP6.  Is there something Im overlooking.

 

As a side note. I'm blown away by the direction this new software is heading virtual pinball. I cant stop playing JPs 3.0 tables. When opened the Pokerz and Gamatron tables I felt like Id unwrapped brand new real machines. They play. look and sound incredible.

 

Cheers and thank you for your help

RusstyT

 

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Edited by RusstyT, 04 June 2021 - 03:34 AM.

[hungrybay101]

Is this with the default/builtin table or with another one? If the latter, do you have the exact repro table, please?

 

The default table uses WAV files which work fine. However, I ran an experiment by converting those WAV files to OGG / MP3 and replacing the WAVs, but otherwise leaving the example table in tact. And I ran into the same sound issue.

 

I'm also experiencing this issue with a table I'm working on, which is unreleased at this time.

 

I wonder if it's my audio converter. I'll run another test with a different converter and report back.

EDIT: I confirmed it is *not* my audio converter. I ran the test using both Any Audio Converter and Audacity. And I encountered the same issues.

Edited by hungrybay101, 04 June 2021 - 04:26 AM.

[wiesshund]

Hi VP7 development team.

Id like to do some graphics and light adjustments for Wizball's ShovelKnight Table but Im unable to see the background image in VP7. Can you please give me some advice around the current playfield image view in the Editor

I ticked playfield image but  the image is not shown in the editor. Also there is no thumb nail image shown in the image manager like in VP6.  Is there something Im overlooking.

 

As a side note. I'm blown away by the direction this new software is heading virtual pinball. I cant stop playing JPs 3.0 tables. When opened the Pokerz and Gamatron tables I felt like Id unwrapped brand new real machines. They play. look and sound incredible.

 

Cheers and thank you for your help

RusstyT

 

VP7_RusstyT_4_6_21.png

 

Do not launch table to open for editing

Right click table file and pick Edit

 

Or open VPX and click file > Open

 

If you flat out launch a table, VPX opens in kind of dedicated play mode and it does not show editor graphics etc

Edited by wiesshund, 04 June 2021 - 06:41 AM.

[mora]

Hola a todos, yo tengo instalada la beta 169 y estoy encantado, felicitaciones a los creadores, no me atrevo a subir de versión, ¿lo recomendáis?

 

Gracias por vuestro esfuerzo y que disfrutamos todos

 

Saludos   

[wiesshund]

Hello everyone, I have beta 169 installed and I am delighted, congratulations to the creators, I do not dare to upload the version, do you recommend it?

 

Saludos   

 

I would probably NOT re-upload the betas to mirror them

They are right there on github available to anyone already, and subject to change at any given time
anything you mirror could become invalid in an hour, or less.

@Toxie

 

Update LTD4a.vbs for the VPM update pertaining to the tilt switch?

 

Line 22

'Last Updated in VBS v3.58
' Written by Wiesshund to run Haunted Hotel ROM, feel free to improve this
Option Explicit
LoadCore
Private Sub LoadCore
	On Error Resume Next
	If VPBuildVersion < 0 Or Err Then
		Dim fso : Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") : Err.Clear
		ExecuteGlobal fso.OpenTextFile("core.vbs", 1).ReadAll    : If Err Then MsgBox "Can't open ""core.vbs""" : Exit Sub
		ExecuteGlobal fso.OpenTextFile("VPMKeys.vbs", 1).ReadAll : If Err Then MsgBox "Can't open ""vpmkeys.vbs""" : Exit Sub
	Else
		ExecuteGlobal GetTextFile("core.vbs")    : If Err Then MsgBox "Can't open ""core.vbs"""    : Exit Sub
		ExecuteGlobal GetTextFile("VPMKeys.vbs") : If Err Then MsgBox "Can't open ""vpmkeys.vbs""" : Exit Sub
	End If
End Sub

'-------------------------
' LTD System 4 Data
'-------------------------
' Cabinet switches
Const swSelfTest    = 9
Const swTilt        = -6 'Updated in VPM 3.4-250-eb28e18!
Const swCoin1       = 13
Const swCoin2       = 13
Const swStartButton = 14
Const swEnter       = 10
Const swDown        = 11

Const swURFlip      = 3
Const swULFlip      = 4
Const swLRFlip      = 84
Const swLLFlip      = 82

' Help Window
vpmSystemHelp = "LTD System 4 keys:" & vbNewLine &_
  vpmKeyName(keyInsertCoin2) & vbTab & "Insert Coin #1" & vbNewLine &_
  vpmKeyName(keyInsertCoin3) & vbTab & "Insert Coin #2" & vbNewLine &_
  vpmKeyName(keyEnter) & vbTab & "Enter (Coin Door)" & vbNewLine &_
  vpmKeyName(keySelfTest) & vbTab & "Self Test"

' Dip Switch / Options Menu
Private Sub LTDShowDips
	If Not IsObject(vpmDips) Then ' First time
		Set vpmDips = New cvpmDips
		With vpmDips
			.AddForm 150, 245, "DIP Switches"
			.AddFrame  0,0, 60, "", 0,_
			  Array("DIP  1",&H00000001,"DIP  2",&H00000002,"DIP  3",&H00000004,"DIP  4",&H00000008,_
			        "DIP  5",&H00000010,"DIP  6",&H00000020,"DIP  7",&H00000040,"DIP  8",&H00000080,_
			        "DIP  9",&H00000100,"DIP 10",&H00000200,"DIP 11",&H00000400,"DIP 12",&H00000800,_
			        "DIP 13",&H00001000,"DIP 14",&H00002000,"DIP 15",&H00004000,"DIP 16",32768)
			.AddFrame 80,0, 60, "", 0,_
			  Array("DIP 17",&H00010000,"DIP 18",&H00020000,"DIP 19",&H00040000,"DIP 20",&H00080000,_
			        "DIP 21",&H00100000,"DIP 22",&H00200000,"DIP 23",&H00400000,"DIP 24",&H00800000,_
			        "DIP 25",&H01000000,"DIP 26",&H02000000,"DIP 27",&H04000000,"DIP 28",&H08000000,_
			        "DIP 29",&H10000000,"DIP 30",&H20000000,"DIP 31",&H40000000,"DIP 32",&H80000000)
		End With
	End If
	vpmDips.ViewDips
End Sub
Set vpmShowDips = GetRef("LTDShowDips")
Private vpmDips

' Keyboard handlers
Function vpmKeyDown(ByVal keycode)
	On Error Resume Next
	vpmKeyDown = True ' Assume we handle the key
	With Controller
		Select Case keycode
			Case RightFlipperKey .Switch(swLRFlip) = True : vpmKeyDown = False
				If keycode = RightMagnaSave then 
				.Switch(swURFlip) = True 
				vpmKeyDown = False
				End If
			Case LeftFlipperKey  .Switch(swLLFlip) = True : vpmKeyDown = False
				If keycode = LeftMagnaSave Then
				.Switch(swULFlip) = True
				vpmKeyDown = False
				End If
			Case RightMagnaSave .Switch(swURFlip) = True : vpmKeyDown = False
			Case LeftMagnaSave  .Switch(swULFlip) = True : vpmKeyDown = False
			Case keyStagedFlipperL .Switch(swULFlip) = True : vpmKeyDown = False
			Case keyStagedFlipperR .Switch(swURFlip) = True : vpmKeyDown = False
			Case keyInsertCoin1  vpmTimer.AddTimer 750,"vpmTimer.PulseSw swCoin1'" : Playsound SCoin
			Case keyInsertCoin2  vpmTimer.AddTimer 750,"vpmTimer.PulseSw swCoin2'" : Playsound SCoin
			Case StartGameKey    .Switch(swStartButton) = True
			Case keySelfTest     .Switch(swSelfTest)    = True
			Case keyEnter        .Switch(swEnter)       = True
			Case keyBangBack     vpmNudge.DoNudge   0, 6
			Case LeftTiltKey     vpmNudge.DoNudge  75, 2
			Case RightTiltKey    vpmNudge.DoNudge 285, 2
			Case CenterTiltKey   vpmNudge.DoNudge   0, 2
			Case keyVPMVolume    vpmVol
			Case Else            vpmKeyDown = False
		End Select
	End With
	On Error Goto 0
End Function

Function vpmKeyUp(ByVal keycode)
	On Error Resume Next
	vpmKeyUp = True ' Assume we handle the key
	With Controller
		Select Case keycode
			Case RightFlipperKey .Switch(swLRFlip) = False : vpmKeyUp = False
				If keycode = RightMagnaSave then 
				.Switch(swURFlip) = False 
				vpmKeyUp = False
				End If
			Case LeftFlipperKey  .Switch(swLLFlip) = False : vpmKeyUp = False
				If keycode = LeftMagnaSave Then
				.Switch(swULFlip) = False
				vpmKeyUp = False
				End If
			Case RightMagnaSave .Switch(swURFlip) = False : vpmKeyUp = False
			Case LeftMagnaSave  .Switch(swULFlip) = False : vpmKeyUp = False
			Case keyStagedFlipperL .Switch(swULFlip) = False : vpmKeyUp = False
			Case keyStagedFlipperR .Switch(swURFlip) = False : vpmKeyUp = False
			Case StartGameKey    .Switch(swStartButton) = False
			Case keySelfTest     .Switch(swSelfTest)    = False
			Case keyEnter        .Switch(swEnter)       = False
			Case keyShowOpts     .Pause = True : .ShowOptsDialog GetPlayerHWnd : .Pause = False
			Case keyShowKeys     .Pause = True : vpmShowHelp : .Pause = False
			Case keyAddBall      .Pause = True : vpmAddBall  : .Pause = False
			Case keyShowDips     If IsObject(vpmShowDips) Then .Pause = True : vpmShowDips : .Pause = False
			Case keyReset        .Stop : BeginModal : .Run : vpmTimer.Reset : EndModal
			Case keyFrame        .LockDisplay = Not .LockDisplay
			Case keyDoubleSize   .DoubleSize  = Not .DoubleSize
			Case Else            vpmKeyUp = False
		End Select
	End With
	On Error Goto 0
End Function

[jpsalas]

Hola a todos, yo tengo instalada la beta 169 y estoy encantado, felicitaciones a los creadores, no me atrevo a subir de versión, ¿lo recomendáis?

 

Gracias por vuestro esfuerzo y que disfrutamos todos

 

Saludos   

 

Do not trust Google translator

 

And, yes you can update to version 192 from the 1st post in this thread.

 

And in Spanglish:

 

Pues puedes actualizar a la versión 192 sin problemas, la encuentras al principio de este hilo. Es muy estable.

[wiesshund]

 

 

 

Do not trust Google translator

 

 

 

I had to

http://translate.jpsalas.com was down for maintenance

[Samuel Villena]

Hello to everybody!

 

I notice an issue with VPX 10.7 192 and the table "Dolly Parton 1979" by bossman72 & JPSalas (https://www.vpforums...&showfile=15744). The thing is that no matter how much streng you put to the plunger, the ball always goes with the same streng and velocity. It was ok in 10.6, so i understand that this is an issue with the software and not with the table. bossman72 and jpsalas, can you take a look?

 

Thank you and have a great weekend!

[Sixtoed]

I've had a go at using 10.7 as an editor and an immediate problem I've found was that the quick access filenames in the file dropdown are truncated more than they were in 10.6, and as I use version numbers as I version bump WIP tables I can no longer see them because they're over the limit.

 

If they need to be truncated could they at least show the end and clip the beginning, or for preference just revert to like 10.6 and show all the filename?

[jpsalas]

Hello to everybody!

 

I notice an issue with VPX 10.7 192 and the table "Dolly Parton 1979" by bossman72 & JPSalas (https://www.vpforums...&showfile=15744). The thing is that no matter how much streng you put to the plunger, the ball always goes with the same streng and velocity. It was ok in 10.6, so i understand that this is an issue with the software and not with the table. bossman72 and jpsalas, can you take a look?

 

Thank you and have a great weekend!

 

That's something bossman72 did to the table and has nothing to do with VPX 10.7. If you have more questions about the table then ask in the support thread, I'm sure bossman72 will answer there.

[toxie]

@Toxie

 

Update LTD4a.vbs for the VPM update pertaining to the tilt switch?

 

Already done yesterday    https://github.com/v...608ab2541195f87

 

And there is now also a matching official 3.4beta: https://www.vpforums...=68#entry479656

I've had a go at using 10.7 as an editor and an immediate problem I've found was that the quick access filenames in the file dropdown are truncated more than they were in 10.6, and as I use version numbers as I version bump WIP tables I can no longer see them because they're over the limit.

 

If they need to be truncated could they at least show the end and clip the beginning, or for preference just revert to like 10.6 and show all the filename?

I tried my best to do this, but somehow the new UI refuses to comply..  :/

[Sixtoed]

More observations;

 - In order to use ctrl-s to save you have to click off whatever you're doing and click on the main editor window

 - When you select a collection of the same thing, for example primitives, it seems to choose one of the things in the collection and display those properties, instead of showing a blank when they have different ones.

 - If you're running 2 tables in the editor and click between them the system locks up whilst it's... loading between them? (running a 5600x 6-core with 32gb), maybe it's cataloguing the layers each time?

 - When you "save as" (to version bump a tables filename), it defaults to your... last directory used? instead of where the table is currently saved, and it has the filename blank instead of prefilled with the current filename

 - If you use a script like;

Pincab_Shooter.Y = -20.45162 + (5* Plunger.Position) -20

to track a plunger with a plunger shooter primitive, if an analogue device is connected then it doesn't work and you have to use a workaround with enabling and disabling timers, where it should just work. Something's obviously causing a position reset.

[LynnInDenver]

 - When you "save as" (to version bump a tables filename), it defaults to your... last directory used? instead of where the table is currently saved, and it has the filename blank instead of prefilled with the current filename

I've seen this with other software as well, so I doubt it's a "bug" in the traditional sense. I don't know if it's just become a "best use" to not have a name applied when you Save As (in order to avoid overwriting by mistake), or Windows forcing it. I know I've seen it in at least two other software packages.

[toxie]

Nevertheless, the save-as dialog now defaults to using the same dir and name.. 

[Samuel Villena]

 

That's something bossman72 did to the table and has nothing to do with VPX 10.7. If you have more questions about the table then ask in the support thread, I'm sure bossman72 will answer there.

 

 

Oh, really? Then i'm allucinating, hahaha, because i was almost sure that it worked fine in 10.6. Thank you JP, i'll post in the correct threat!

[topper2k]

Is it expected that the 10.7 beta might result in slower table load times? Or am I just imagining it's slower?

[Uncle Monkey]

Is it expected that the 10.7 beta might result in slower table load times? Or am I just imagining it's slower?

My experience is the opposite. Loading seems slightly snappier