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[DedRok_V]

tom
vp91x
jpsalas v2.11
3,318,179,670 >EDY<

[DedRok_V]

little more ... this table plays hard

tom
vp91x
jpsalas v2.11
4,628,972,700 >EDY<

[WWE]

Ich Gratuliere dir zu deinen Punkten DedRok_V diesen Tisch hab ich natürlich auch. Aber er ist noch ein bisschen zu schwer für mich.

Sven

[blur]

Don't know if FS tables are alowed here? I don't play much desktop.
Black Hole 16:9 from patatrox converted to FS, uvp added
997440
7 replays, several extra balls
vp912, pinmame 2.4

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Edited by blur, 10 November 2011 - 08:57 AM.

[GRONI]

Hehe I do not see Megapin Tables very often here If you are playing JP Pins, than scores like this are very easy, since the gameplay physics are VERY easy on JP´s tables.

If you wanne try to beat a real score play Megapins. I bet you don´t beat the score that high

[slam23]

Hehe I do not see Megapin Tables very often here If you are playing JP Pins, than scores like this are very easy, since the gameplay physics are VERY easy on JP´s tables.

If you wanne try to beat a real score play Megapins. I bet you don´t beat the score that high

Well, the physics may be somewhat easier (although I'm under the impression that JP is building more randomness and less easy nudging into his tables of late), but the speed on JP's tables can be very fast!! But I'll take you up on your dare and try to kick some @ss on your new LOTR!
Slam23

[LMTR14]

The Simpsons Pinball Party
Megapin
1.2

TRR 389.954.770



a bug eventually disabled the couch's locking ability, otherwise 400+ would have been realistic

gonna try to get to wizard mode on this one, fun table though it's still very hard for me to make certain shots

[GRONI]

BTW...Highscores with a Screenshot are very strange...Everybody who knows a little bit about the VP Editor and its option, can easily add invisible Walls to the Lanes and Drain. To make a highscore "real" there would have to be a locked table
without the chance to fake around.

[TheMcD]

So? Even then, I could just use PinMAME32 and cheat till the cows come home and you'd have no way to prove it.

We're just posting screenshots because that's just how it evolved.

The McD

[ced]

BTW...Highscores with a Screenshot are very strange...Everybody who knows a little bit about the VP Editor and its option, can easily add invisible Walls to the Lanes and Drain. To make a highscore "real" there would have to be a locked table
without the chance to fake around.

Hi GRONI,

Would have you a better solution to send the scores ?

It's just pinball , it's for fun , no money...

ced.

[slam23]

BTW...Highscores with a Screenshot are very strange...Everybody who knows a little bit about the VP Editor and its option, can easily add invisible Walls to the Lanes and Drain. To make a highscore "real" there would have to be a locked table
without the chance to fake around.

It's all in good faith! A tournament system with locked tables was in development I believe by Noah, but he has been way to busy with other things probably to finish that. In the earlier VP days, there was a site where you could post your score and had to supply your NVRAM to verify, but that still left the possibility of cheating wide open with editing the table.
Slam23

[fel]

I don't think somebody posted fake scores so far. I'm saying this because I think Visual pinball is a little easier than real pinball, nevertheless, looking at real scores posted in pinballhighscores.org, majority of scores are 4 or 5X higher than top scores posted here. So I believe is more likely that those scores might be fake, compared with visual pinball scores posted so far. I have not seen anything exceptional so far. An example?

LOTR Vp top score around 1.3 billion, undoubtedly an outstanding score, but nothing compared to 4.2 billion top score published in pinabllhighscores.org with a real machine.. If somebody would play with walls, I don't think would be so hard to reach such levels, other examples?

Medieval madness, top Vp score around 1.3 billion, top real pinball score almost 3 billion

The simpsons pinball party, top vp score 474 million, top real score 1.3 billion

Cirqus voltaire, top vp score 243 million, top real score 1.4 billion

Tales of the arabian nights, top vp score 218 million, top real pinball score, 3.6 billion!!!
and so on...

[DedRok_V]

I dont think anyone cheats, why would they. It is only for fun.

Some of the updated newer JP tables I noticed as Slam said, shots have been changed to make them harder and they are so fast, it takes some time to get used to them. Also swapping between different authors makes you change the style of play you have.

Some days ( in my case late at night early morning ) I can get big score after big score and then next time just keep losing the ball and not make shots at all. Some games you are just in the zone.

And real pin scores, anybody can take the glass off then take photo of high score. (If you have keys)

The best tournament would be locked tables and special locked roms, but I have even noticed the difference between computer systems changing how a table plays.

[DedRok_V]

Ich Gratuliere dir zu deinen Punkten DedRok_V diesen Tisch hab ich natürlich auch. Aber er ist noch ein bisschen zu schwer für mich.

Sven

Dank Sven, nahm mich das eine ganze Reihe geht an diesem Punkt zu bekommen. Es spielt sehr schnell und hart.

Dank dir DedRok_V,

also der WWF Royal Rumbel geht sehr schwer zu spielen, weil das ganze Hintergrundbild Wackelt. Und die Kugel läuft dann natürlich auch nicht so flüssig wie sie eigentlich laufen sollte. Gratulation für die Punkte vielleicht könnte ich dich beim medieval madness. Tisch Schlagen muss mal sehen ob ich das hin bekomme.

Sven

Sven
Sie können das Bild wackelt am WWF deaktivieren und noch post eine hohe Punktzahl, aber nicht ändern Schütteln / rumble. Stoppen des Bildes ändert nichts an der Physik und ist erlaubt.

[slam23]

I don't think somebody posted fake scores so far. I'm saying this because I think Visual pinball is a little easier than real pinball, nevertheless, looking at real scores posted in pinballhighscores.org, majority of scores are 4 or 5X higher than top scores posted here. So I believe is more likely that those scores might be fake, compared with visual pinball scores posted so far. I have not seen anything exceptional so far. An example?

LOTR Vp top score around 1.3 billion, undoubtedly an outstanding score, but nothing compared to 4.2 billion top score published in pinabllhighscores.org with a real machine.. If somebody would play with walls, I don't think would be so hard to reach such levels, other examples?

Medieval madness, top Vp score around 1.3 billion, top real pinball score almost 3 billion

The simpsons pinball party, top vp score 474 million, top real score 1.3 billion

Cirqus voltaire, top vp score 243 million, top real score 1.4 billion

Tales of the arabian nights, top vp score 218 million, top real pinball score, 3.6 billion!!!
and so on...

This is an interesting point to make, although I don't know if this proves the point. I don't get to play a lot of real tables where I live, so I have to remember my college days back in the early '90s and I would be hard pressed to say which is consistently harder, VP or real pins. I remember killing the real Star Wars pin to the point the bartender of that particular joint forbade me to play anymore to give other people a chance, I kept playing that machine to replay but can't remember the actual scores. If I try that on JP's Star Wars, it kicks my @ss every so often. Getting to VP LOTR 1.4B was really hard work, so a score in the 4B range on a real machine is mind-boggling to me and while I don't want to overestimate my own skills, it would lead me to think that the real pin maybe easier to play? JP's tables have been called very fast by some real pin owners that can compare the gameplay and physics between VP and the real deal. Then you have a lot of techniques that advanced real pin players have mastered that aren't even possible on a VP machine. Just watch the excellent Pinball 101 DVD, see http://www.pinballvideo.com/p101.htm and you'll see what I mean. Think Death Saves for example and complex nudging moves where you coax the ball upwards out from an outlane. On the other hand, VP tables can be more predictable and some have very liberal nudge settings. I think it's a complex issue but I would love to see some discussion about that (although I do vaguely remember having posted before in a thread about this particular topic....)
Slam23

[WWE]

Hallo DedRok_V,

Du schreibst das ich das deaktivieren kann das Wackeln am WWF Royal Rumble Flipper aber wie geht das ??? Das nervt mich wenn es Wackelt. Vielleicht kannst du mir sagen wie ich dieses abstellen kann. Danke dir

Sven

[fel]

Hi Slam, personally I can't judge very well the difficulty of real pinball because i'm not used to play the real thing very often due to the lack of locations in my zone. Anyway, the local arcade of my town once had a sharkeys shootout table, and my top score was very bad compared to my personal best in vp.
346 millions with the real table and 5 balls, vs 1.4 billion with the vp version and only 3 balls! 1st score in my arcade was 858 million with 5 balls. Again I checked sharkeys shootout best scores in pinballhighscores.org and the 1st score claimed is 7.5 billion with 3 balls!!, made by Paul Madison currently in the top pinball player rankings..

The 4 billion Lotr score was made by Patrick Bodin, currently in the top 20 pinball player rankings, CV and TOTAN score were made by Keith Elwin the 1st in the rankings.. Maybe is a matter of specialization.. It might be possible that these great players playing VP would score lesser than us...

[LMTR14]

The Simpsons Pinball Party

megapin

1.2

530.987.260



wizard mode with my last ball!

[ced]

Whitewater by jpsalas
vp91x , v1.0p mod FS
Initials : CED
Score : 635.204.330

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[GSGregg]

Finally cracked the nut on this bad boy.....I had to find out why the scores on PacDude's AFM are so much lower than on the JP/Groni version.

I found out.

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Attack From Mars VP8
PacDude v.4.3
16,521,297,520
GMP

I put in about seven hours over the last three days; had ten or twelve scores around 9B to 10B---and probably a hundred or so that were a lot less---and finally hit this one. That's enough research or a while.