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[Thalamus]

That just sounds weird. It should work - you've kind of proven that your setup is correct already. Reboot ?

[Tvel4]

Gave it a reboot but still no luck.  I was hoping I might have missed a step but perhaps not?  Are there any checks I can do to make sure I have everything in the right place? 

I believe I have vpinmame 2.8... I don't have the most recent visual pinball update that was just released but I didn't think I would need that.  Are there any settings I need to have checked aside from "use externl DMD"...? Or other updates I could have missed? Thanks for your help!!

Edited by Tvel4, 04 June 2017 - 07:15 PM.

[Thalamus]

So. If you run setup.exe and scroll down to 170c and run the test - it is still working ?

And - the only change you made to the avenger table was to add a 'c' to the end of the rom name ?

 

If yes to both, then I would be in the same boat as you - scratching my head. You don't perhaps have multiple installations ?

Edited by Thalamus, 05 June 2017 - 08:39 AM.

[STAT]

Sometimes, the TEST with the Setup.exe dont work, just if you start the Table with the Rom !
 
Check "external" and "colorize", yes, and uncheck the "Show DMD", put the DMDDevice.dll to your VPinMAME.dll
Recomend you to use VPM 2.9 ...

Edited by STAT, 05 June 2017 - 10:58 AM.

[Tvel4]

I believe I solved my issue-- my eyes must have glazed right over this originally. The answer was in the first post. Instead of putting the dmddevice.dll in my vpmame folder, I put it in the C:\Windows\SysWOW64 folder-- and that seemed to have solved my issue. Running color DMDs and they look great!

[Thalamus]

I'm absolutely not a fan of putting that dll into syswow64. If you had to put it there to work, well, then I'm pretty sure it is because of a conflict with another dll somewhere in your installation. What now has happened is because of the location, it finds this dll before the conflicting one.

[Tvel4]

Hmm, I will need to take another look and see where that conflict might be then--- I definitely don't see the dll in my vpinmame folder-- any other place you think it could be that would be causing the conflict?

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[CaptFlam]

Did you copy dmdext or the dmddevice.dll based on dmdext into your pinmame folder ?

[Rajo Joey]

Did you copy dmdext or the dmddevice.dll based on dmdext into your pinmame folder ?

I moved the DMDdevice.dll and the .ini-file there, because I only had virtual DMD, but take a look here: http://www.vpforums....=73#entry380325

Edited by Joey2001, 06 June 2017 - 02:55 PM.

[latin625]

Hi,  I am using the freezy dmdext to show color palettes on my cab, but it keeps the virtual DMD on the playfield too.  It wont go away, even if I click on use external dmd (pindmd3) and cabinet mode.  I have to click on f1 then off again for it to go behind the playfield.  any ideas? Thanks!

Edited by latin625, 07 June 2017 - 06:19 PM.

[Thalamus]

Look inside the dmddevice.ini file.

 

Change

 

[virtualdmd]
enabled = true

 

To

 

[virtualdmd]
enabled = false

Hmm, I will need to take another look and see where that conflict might be then--- I definitely don't see the dll in my vpinmame folder-- any other place you think it could be that would be causing the conflict?

 

Could you check if you have this Microsoft patch installed ?

KB2533623

https://www.microsof...s.aspx?id=26767

[delt31]

First off - amazing feature here.  Two questions:

 

1)  STERN Games:  New color dmd always goes back to my PF and does not stay in the spot I've adjusted.  How do I have it stay at the new spot on boot up (which is on my 3rd display not 1st)?  I think it's updating dmddevice.ini but not sure how.  Also - the freezy link has more than just .dll file in there.  Should all of those files go into VPMAME folder?  I had to put the .dll in my tables file for it to work though.  Not sure why.

 

2) Non Stern (4 color):  I created the altcolor folder and put the rom's name folders that have the .pal files in there but I don't believe it's working when I play those games.  The 4 colors seem to be the same as standard default (orange purple blue) and not custom.  I just need to check color rom right not external dmd?  And I just need to include those .pals in the alt color folder?  I ask b/c the d/l I got (140+) also came with a folder called table_palettes which I'm not using.  I just used the altcolor folder it came with.  The table palettes has .pal but their called the name of the rom while the altcolor folder has the rom names as folders and within are *******.pal.  

 

Thanks!

Edited by delt31, 18 June 2017 - 12:41 PM.

[STV]

I think you DO have to check 'external DMD'. 

 

 

Who knows how to enable logging?   On didn't work, 1 didn't work 'full' didn't work. 

 

      internalLogLevel="on" internalLogFile="c:\temp\nlog-internal.log" >

 

it writes a log but writes this and nothing else that is helpful as a result. 

Exception occurred when loading configuration from C:\Visual Pinball\VPinMAME\DmdDevice.log.config ---> System.ArgumentException: Unknown log level: on

[delt31]

 

I think you DO have to check 'external DMD'. 

 

 

Really?  For the non stern games?  I just did and I see the other DMD but the colors look the same (its the standard orange purple blue that is used when you check color dmd box).  I dont believe my "altcolor" folder is being used.  Anyone know why?

 

EDIT - I tried puting the palette folder into VPMAME and no dice.  

 

Can someone explain how to get the 4 color altcolor folder option to work?  At this time, I've d/l the 140+ pin2dmd.pal files and put them in their respective rom folders all in altcolor.  I then check color dmd and no dice.  I checked enabled external dmd and it plays but same colors as original DMD.  What am I missing as it seems to just be using the standard orange, purple blue.

Edited by delt31, 18 June 2017 - 03:55 PM.

[Thalamus]

Read the thread - it has been explained to the tiresome.

[delt31]

I actually read all 10 pages.  Got the SAM to work but not the 4 color ones.  I don't believe it's clear if I need to also check the use external DMD box when doing non sam.  Tried both no luck.  It's also not clear if you put all the files from freezys attachement in vpmame or just the dll and ini.  I've put all at this point. 

 

i also created altcolor folder in pinmame, created rom name folder and included in there *******.pin file.  .dll file is in vpmame and tables.  no dice.  is the answer to my question in this thread bc im overlooking it.

 

thanks

Edited by delt31, 18 June 2017 - 06:33 PM.

[Thalamus]

If you don't tick 'use 4 color' then the settings are read from registry like vpm dmd does. Don't need it - true, but, if you want altcolor to be read it needs to be set.

It is not like you get amazing colors from setting that - some of the tables have some adjustments that are nice, some are not. If you want colored dmd, more than 4 colors. The rom needs to be patched and you need that pin-2-dmd.pal file in it correct place. Those pin-2-dmd.pal files are distributed together with the color rom patch archives, not it the 140++ pin-2-dmd.pal archive. Try LOTR, it has a blueish background and the rest of the colors ( 3 in all ) are kind of brown.

 

If you don't tick 'ext dmd' then dmddevice.dll isn't in effect at all. Look at this as a replacement for the ugly vpm dmd. You only need two files in vpinmame folder dmddevice.dll and dmddevice.ini, the last is controlling the functionality of the dmd. You find those two files inside dmd-ext 2.5.1 @ freezy' github page ( latest release as of now )

Edited by Thalamus, 18 June 2017 - 07:30 PM.

[delt31]

thank you.  so I take it the external DMD option needs to be checked when trying to use the altcolor folder correct?

 

The only color rom I'm still working through is family guy b/c it didn't come with *******.pal file.  Came with a .dat file so not sure what's going on there.

 

Is it true then that the "140++" ones are truly 4 shades only and therefore will not make a huge difference?  If so, I'm not aware of 16 colors being available for NON STERN (aka older games) right?  On any website to download?  I understand to make that work they need to be patched but I haven't seen any available for non stern.  The first page on this thread makes it seem like older games (non SAM) do have 16 colors avail.  Not sure where:

 

"For four shades, we increase the color depth, so you're able to set 16 individual colors for every frame even for non-SAM games. With that you're able to do pretty awesome stuff.

 

EDIT - for the 4 colors I got it working by d/l dmc files and installing via setdmd.  I don't believe old games can't do 16 colors (like the SAM ones) but correct me if I'm wrong. Prob best I;'m going to get right now.

 

just trying to get family guy going in full color....

Edited by delt31, 18 June 2017 - 09:47 PM.

[Umpa]

Question? I have all up to date files i followed the tutorial and read numerous posts but still cant get color dmd to work on my 3rd screen. When I put freezys dll in my vpinmame folder and start a table and hit F1 to check enable external dmd and color dmd. When I exit vpx freezes. I have tried numerous ways. When I remove freezys dll then I have no issue. So something is not right not sure where to look. I have ensured that my files are all up to date including .net any ideas what to check next? I don't think that dll is doing anything. Because after i restart after the lock up no dmd is shown.

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