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[brodzowski]

I was one of the early adopters of this Monitor when it was very first released (which means I wayyyy overpaid for it, lol). At the time I already had a working medium grade test build. I disassembled that cabinet with intentions of a final rebuild after testing my skills. Then life got in the way. It has sat unused for over two years. I've now got the bug back and am ready to start building, but to my surprise, I can't find ANYone who has built a cab with this monitor (outside of prefab companys) that I can use for reference.

 

Specifically - I don't think it's possible to decase the thing or I sure can't see how and if that's not happening - the case itself has a 1/2 inch bezel around it, but 15/16 at the bottom WITH a logo. The only thing I read was that hypothetically - this guy " would cut a slot in the side" to make the sides match, but again - that's not in practice and if you do - there's no way to build a lifting platform for it as it wouldn't be able to pivot.

 

Anyone have any advice or pictures or ANY information about using this particular monitor and how they succeeded? I'd appreciate some guidance! 

[wiesshund]

how much wider is the monitor than your cabinet?

[brodzowski]

I wasn't trying to retrofit, I'm completely rebuilding from scratch using existing hardware and parts, but new pc and screens. Sorry if that wasn't clear. The offset bezel is really the issue - and I misspoke above - after measuring the 3 sides are 9/16, not 1/2, but that third side is a hefty 15/16". Hence my issue.

[wiesshund]

Yes but, how much wider is the screen than your cabinet?

[brodzowski]

lol, wellllll I heard you the first time you asked it. First - if you're talking about my old cabinet - it's not. My old cabinet is wider because I had a larger monitor previous - 46 inch if I remember right. If you're asking about the "new" dimensions - I don't have them yet. 

I can't exactly answer your question.... twice even.

[wiesshund]

I dont understand then
If you dont have a cab constructed yet, where does the issue come in?
Build the cab to fit the screen.

 

The screen itself will be centered, but the monitor case will be offset a little.

As far as decasing it, there is nothing that Cant be decased.
Not sure if it will work decased, i think the side lit screens dont make good candidates for decasing
at least not fully decasing.

 

I am sure the fatter bottom bezel is a combination of
houses the monitors control panel, and contains extra plastic reinforcing to support the monitor weight.

 

So that might very well be trimmable to the destruction of your warranty

[brodzowski]

How in the world will the screen be centered? If I have one margin (for ease of description we'll just call it flush) that is 9/16 and the other margin that is ALmost an inch and to your eye, that's centered? i'm sorry, but not mine. It's a 3/8 offset to one side of the cabinet. Not to mention the bezel "look" is just fatter on one side. 

 

That's my issue.

As for decasing - I've gone over this thing from top to bottom. The larger bottom bezel is more likely holding the speaker section which we don't care about, but the case itself does not have one single screw anywhere holding it together. And it's on there tight. Hence why I wondered if there was someone else with experience here. The monitor has been around a long time now and people have talked about it often as an option. I just can't find anyone that's done it. 

[gtxjoe]

Ignore it. People look at the playfield when playing pinball. Not the offset of the monitor border

[brodzowski]

Ignore it. People look at the playfield when playing pinball. Not the offset of the monitor border

 

Oh please don't let this be the answer. I "good enoughed" my last build. If I was paying someone to build me this cabinet I wouldn't be ok with "ignore it". There were many things as the builder of my last one I couldn't "Ignore". With all due respect I just can't.

 

A reasonable example is - let's say you're correct - that's what "people" look at when playing - consider the addressable led that runs the length of the side bezel. Not only does it magnify the side, but also the offset of the screen! 

 

I'm quite surprised at "good enough".

[wiesshund]

I looked but i can not find a tear down video of the rog strix or swift monitors
i guess nobody has wanted to tear one down?

 

It is a snap shut cover
the top tabs lock in 1st and then you snap the rest of it closed

 

so opening it is basically playing with a spudger, a lot

 

As far is putting it into the cab
You dont offset the screen itself, well inless the cab is too narrow but your cab isnt too anything yet
You put the LCD dead centered

The fatter bottom bezel would be nearly touching the cab
the skinnier top bezel would have a lot of cap.
you hide that fact, by placing a false bezel over the top of it

[brodzowski]

Mmmmm ^^^  so thaaaaat makes a bit of sense. I've been pouring over the videos by extreme gaming cabinets from Austrailia because they use them a ALOT and I was trying to figure out how they had that centered and I think they're doing exactly what you said. The cab actually is less snug of a fit to the bezel and then you play with the offset for for centerline. 

 

I hate that answer because to me it makes the playfield look so much smaller "inside" the cabinet when you have so much border. They do a good job of not making it too offensive. Hopefully I can acheive that effect. 

 

My old cabinet was a flush monitor so I got used to that "edge to edge" viewing and on a 46 I was right spoiled. I hate that I feel like I'm losing real estate. In all reality I likely will be just fine, but I didn't need a "bezel" before and I don't see one on this guy's either. They are using some kind of removable tray or something that houses the leds on the side so I'm assuming that's their answer to your "bezel.

 

I'll keep hem hawing on this but it doesn't feel good at the moment.

Keep those good ideas rollin.

Edited by brodzowski, 07 September 2022 - 12:49 AM.

[wiesshund]

can not answer you without taking the monitor apart

if it is lit from the left and right sides, cant see those anyways, it retain enough bezel to keep the lighting in place
but if it is lit all the way around, then have to think up something else

 

Nothing says the playfield has to lift up
it could eject out the back

which means i could use wider trim
and a false wall

or left it tilt up and use wider trim and a magnetic false wall

[brodzowski]

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I may be the first person on the internet to actually do it.

It kept bugging and bugging me trying to figure out the various ways I could get around this until I'd just had enough and grabbed a screwdriver. It is now carefully out of the clamshell and perfectly surrounded by a minimal frame that I can easily configure into my new cab EVENly. Im so friggen relieved! I just had to get the balls. Balls found. No biggie. If you were wondering the same? Go for it. - carefully. Ez peazy.

[wiesshund]

So far so good
Now can you carefully lift the steel LCD mounting plate from the plastic bezel?
 

[brodzowski]

So far so good
Now can you carefully lift the steel LCD mounting plate from the plastic bezel?
 

 

I was already ahead of you. This thing is out and on it's feet for the moment. It's a perfect candidate for decasing. The sides are nice and flat and uniform all the way around without the case. Can vouch. She's a beaut!

[wiesshund]

 

So far so good
Now can you carefully lift the steel LCD mounting plate from the plastic bezel?
 

 

I was already ahead of you. This thing is out and on it's feet for the moment. It's a perfect candidate for decasing. The sides are nice and flat and uniform all the way around without the case. Can vouch. She's a beaut!

 

that is what i though when you had the back of the case off
it looked like i could most likely mount the steel pan
ditch the speakers
and gently relocate any dangly bits to a safe haven


 

[FFMOB]

i use to run this monitor in my cab, removed all outer plastic and also removed the metal frame surrounding the panel and sprayed it black

[wiesshund]

i use to run this monitor in my cab, removed all outer plastic and also removed the metal frame surrounding the panel and sprayed it black

I would probably want to keep the metal
to support and protect the LCD

 

Be my luck i'd break it otherwise

[FFMOB]

 

i use to run this monitor in my cab, removed all outer plastic and also removed the metal frame surrounding the panel and sprayed it black

I would probably want to keep the metal
to support and protect the LCD

 

Be my luck i'd break it otherwise

 

yes absolutely, after painting the metal frame black i reattached it to the panel. it only lasted a couple months b4 swapping the asus out for the LG C2 and what a game changer the oled is

[tytler32u]

Im deciding on my 43 playfield now. The LG C2 is the way to go? Im a huge OLED fan, I have an 83 A90J in my living room.