Jump to content



Photo
- - - - -

Firepower II (Williams 1983) [Visual Pinball X]

Goldchicco

  • Please log in to reply
38 replies to this topic

#1 goldchicco

goldchicco

    Enthusiast

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 281 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Stargate

Posted 08 September 2021 - 09:19 PM

Posted Image


File Name: Firepower II (Williams 1983)

File Submitter: goldchicco

File Submitted: 08 Sep 2021

File Category: VPX/VPinMAME Recreations

Author(s): Goldchicco
Walamab
Apophis
Manufacturer: Williams
Year: 1983
Permission to MOD?: Yes, with approval


This is a complete rebuilt of  Walamab table 
10.6 TABLE
 
Big thank you to you to:
Apophis for helping me in this project
What's new:
* New lights, new lighting
* New GI
* New table physics
* New Backdrop image for DT users (thanks @batch)
* Added nFozzy flippers (thanks @Apohpis)
* Added Fleep Sounds (thanks @Apohpis)
* Reworked all the images, cleaned and upscaled
* Added missing mechanical sounds and replaced ball rolling sound
* Tuned Slingshots and Bumpers force
* Corrected Rubbers Hit Height
* Added JP's LUT code
* New instruction Cards in the apron
* Adjusted general table physics (thanks @Apohpis)
* Adjusted numerous table elements physics properties (thanks @Apohpis)
* Added dampeners  (thanks @Apohpis)
* Few other adjustments that I can't remember  anymore
 
To rotate and select between the nine LUT files press and Hold the Left Magnasave and rotate pressing the Right Magnasave.
 
Hope you enjoy it and please leave constructive feedback or comments in the support topic and will try to make it better.
 
All Logos, Copyrights and Trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 
PROVIDED STRICTLY FOR PERSONAL / HOME USE AND NOT FOR COMMERCIAL SALE / RE-SALE OR DISTRIBUTION!
 
Permission to Mod: Yes with approval


Click here to download this file



#2 wiesshund

wiesshund

    VPF Legend

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,859 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: How many can i have?

Posted 08 September 2021 - 10:56 PM

I umm, may have to try this

Shhh, dont tell ;)

 

 

Now if only i could decide on Firepower I, Drop targets or Hit targets?
I just dont know :(


If you feel the need to empty your wallet in my direction, i don't have any way to receive it anyways

Spend it on Hookers and Blow


#3 ryesteve

ryesteve

    Enthusiast

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 168 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Attack From Mars

Posted 10 September 2021 - 08:35 PM

I'm having a problem with the left ramp shot.  The ball is getting to the curve and then bouncing back down instead of going around the curve and continuing across the table.  Anyone else?



#4 Bladeof

Bladeof

    Enthusiast

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 53 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: T2, Medieval Madness

Posted 10 September 2021 - 08:55 PM

I'm having a problem with the left ramp shot.  The ball is getting to the curve and then bouncing back down instead of going around the curve and continuing across the table.  Anyone else?

Walamab's original table also had this problem with the ramp shot, I don't think there was a fix for it.

#5 bolt

bolt

    VPF Veteran

  • VIP
  • 5,150 posts
  • Location:Kiel / Schleswig Holstein

  • Flag: Germany

  • Favorite Pinball: JP's Deadpool, Harlem Globetrotters, Spiderman and much more

Posted 10 September 2021 - 10:19 PM

Looks great goldchicco, thank you.


Posted Image

#6 wiesshund

wiesshund

    VPF Legend

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,859 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: How many can i have?

Posted 10 September 2021 - 10:33 PM

I'm having a problem with the left ramp shot.  The ball is getting to the curve and then bouncing back down instead of going around the curve and continuing across the table.  Anyone else?

 

Not yet, mind you i have only made the ramp shot a few times, usually i dont get it right and dont have enough ass to make it up the ramp
but when i have, i have not had it bounce back, yet.


If you feel the need to empty your wallet in my direction, i don't have any way to receive it anyways

Spend it on Hookers and Blow


#7 ryesteve

ryesteve

    Enthusiast

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 168 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Attack From Mars

Posted 11 September 2021 - 12:16 AM

Yeah, I've seen that too, but even when I hit it squarely enough to overcome gravity, it just rebounds right back at me.



#8 wiesshund

wiesshund

    VPF Legend

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,859 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: How many can i have?

Posted 11 September 2021 - 12:29 AM

Not sure then, when i manage to get it up the ramp, it goes on through
i just dont manage to get a good shot most of the time


If you feel the need to empty your wallet in my direction, i don't have any way to receive it anyways

Spend it on Hookers and Blow


#9 3rdaxis

3rdaxis

    Pinball Fan

  • VIP
  • 718 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: The Addams Family

  • PS3 Gamer Tag: Thirdaxis01

Posted 11 September 2021 - 01:37 AM

Ramp 5 is overlapping ramp 1 and leaving a lip that the will ball have a hard time rolling over at low speeds. Simply move the left most point on ramp 5 over like this...

asd0.pngasdf0.png

Then the control points from ramps 1,3,5 and 13 need to be offset -10. 

asd2.png

And finally both ramps 14 and 18 need to be dropped to 70.

asd3.png


Edited by 3rdaxis, 11 September 2021 - 02:00 AM.


#10 wiesshund

wiesshund

    VPF Legend

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,859 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: How many can i have?

Posted 11 September 2021 - 01:40 AM

Simply move the left most point on ramp 5 over...

 

 

Im afraid LOL

i might do worse


If you feel the need to empty your wallet in my direction, i don't have any way to receive it anyways

Spend it on Hookers and Blow


#11 wiesshund

wiesshund

    VPF Legend

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,859 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: How many can i have?

Posted 11 September 2021 - 01:53 AM

Ok, i put on big boy panties

 

i took the last point on ramp 1, copied the X/Y coords, picked ramp 5, 1st point, clicked past button, i carried that all the way to the right side
lining up the ramps

 

Then the wire ramps looked bad, so i went back and aligned them to their matching points, all the way across, even the turn before the down ramp

 

Seems to run very smooth, though i still can not hit the ramp for crap, and when i say smooth, it exits the down ramp like a runaway train LOL
i maybe should have installed brakes :)


If you feel the need to empty your wallet in my direction, i don't have any way to receive it anyways

Spend it on Hookers and Blow


#12 3rdaxis

3rdaxis

    Pinball Fan

  • VIP
  • 718 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: The Addams Family

  • PS3 Gamer Tag: Thirdaxis01

Posted 11 September 2021 - 02:13 AM

And the flipper physics seem a little weak.

https://youtu.be/AI2ypxm3z8g?t=372

https://youtu.be/AI2ypxm3z8g?t=556


Edited by 3rdaxis, 11 September 2021 - 02:28 AM.


#13 3rdaxis

3rdaxis

    Pinball Fan

  • VIP
  • 718 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: The Addams Family

  • PS3 Gamer Tag: Thirdaxis01

Posted 11 September 2021 - 02:24 AM

Ok, i put on big boy panties

 

i took the last point on ramp 1, copied the X/Y coords, picked ramp 5, 1st point, clicked past button, i carried that all the way to the right side
lining up the ramps

 

Then the wire ramps looked bad, so i went back and aligned them to their matching points, all the way across, even the turn before the down ramp

 

Seems to run very smooth, though i still can not hit the ramp for crap, and when i say smooth, it exits the down ramp like a runaway train LOL
i maybe should have installed brakes :)

:)


Edited by 3rdaxis, 11 September 2021 - 02:00 PM.


#14 wiesshund

wiesshund

    VPF Legend

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,859 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: How many can i have?

Posted 11 September 2021 - 02:58 AM

Ok, gimme a min, im copying it over to desktop pc

 

oh, whole table file, im looking to see where the heck the physics export file saved to


Edited by wiesshund, 11 September 2021 - 03:00 AM.

If you feel the need to empty your wallet in my direction, i don't have any way to receive it anyways

Spend it on Hookers and Blow


#15 3rdaxis

3rdaxis

    Pinball Fan

  • VIP
  • 718 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: The Addams Family

  • PS3 Gamer Tag: Thirdaxis01

Posted 11 September 2021 - 03:06 AM

goldchicco is updating the fix's. 


Edited by 3rdaxis, 14 September 2021 - 07:11 AM.


#16 wiesshund

wiesshund

    VPF Legend

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,859 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: How many can i have?

Posted 11 September 2021 - 03:11 AM

Seems better yes
flippers not so bouncy and a bit stronger
still cant hit the ramp for beans, have to figure out the sweet spot


If you feel the need to empty your wallet in my direction, i don't have any way to receive it anyways

Spend it on Hookers and Blow


#17 Bladeof

Bladeof

    Enthusiast

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 53 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: T2, Medieval Madness

Posted 11 September 2021 - 05:45 AM

Light number 10 does not light up. To FIX: In the editor, find light 18 and rename it to L18, then in the script under the sub update lamps section, put in the following line... NFadeL 18, L18

#18 Albert

Albert

    Enthusiast

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 348 posts

  • Flag: Germany

  • Favorite Pinball: Dealers Choice

Posted 11 September 2021 - 02:41 PM

A "Firepower II" with good flipper adjustments has yet to be released. Every version has the "FP feeling": Aim a a target and you'll surely miss it.

 

I've experimented with the settings and came across with these:

 

BR 21,5

ER 13

L 130

SA 125

EA 70

H 50

MDL 0

 

Just give it a try.



#19 goldchicco

goldchicco

    Enthusiast

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 281 posts

  • Flag: United States of America

  • Favorite Pinball: Stargate

Posted 11 September 2021 - 02:56 PM

A "Firepower II" with good flipper adjustments has yet to be released. Every version has the "FP feeling": Aim a a target and you'll surely miss it.
 
I've experimented with the settings and came across with these:
 
BR 21,5
ER 13
L 130
SA 125
EA 70
H 50
MDL 0
 
Just give it a try.

Which version of Firepower II you used this settings??
I'm going to release an update later today, based on 3rdaxis suggestions (flippers and ramp tuned).
Them way compare the two settings

#20 Albert

Albert

    Enthusiast

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 348 posts

  • Flag: Germany

  • Favorite Pinball: Dealers Choice

Posted 11 September 2021 - 03:21 PM

I used them on your version: Firepower II (Williams 1983) 1.0







Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Goldchicco