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#1 Theguyoverthere

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 09:58 AM

Well, after hours of tinkering, I am off to a pretty good start. I am actually taking my time on this one, as you can see, I've finally learned that a table has to be at least somewhat realistic to how a real table would be built. So, I now have posts and screws and rails and plastics and all sorts of things.

This is a very rough screenshot, so don't cringe too bad! All of that ugly purple is just a placeholder, so I know that anything that's purple will be a plastic eventually. Bob was very right on finding images, within a few seconds I found a GREAT backdrop to use just by using google images! The playfield image will most likely be changed. Right now it's just a palceholder I found so the playfield isn't all gray.

Tell me what ya think, if I"m on the right track, or if it just looks totally horrible, I should give up, etc. smile.gif

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 04:31 PM

Looks pretty decent so far. Took me a moment to see why the middle right flipper was necessary, but the table looks pretty playable. biggrin.gif

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 04:35 PM

Great looking table! I can't wait to give it a few quarters!


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Posted 28 December 2009 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE (Practicedummy @ Dec 28 2009, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks pretty decent so far. Took me a moment to see why the middle right flipper was necessary, but the table looks pretty playable. biggrin.gif


The middle right flipper can actually shoot that upper upper inner loop (the one that goes into the bumpers), and is the only way to hit the target that's right below the blue bumper, as well as the target lower down in the middle of the playfield. In addition, it can also shoot the lock targets and the lock lane to the right of the left ramp. smile.gif

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 02:18 AM

Looks like a table with a lot of good shots, loops, and targets... Nice. Didn't notice the two ramps on the right at first.... Lots of ramps, but doesn't look crowded.

The Backdrop has 3 Glendas, and no Scarecrows... I take it you like blonds biggrin.gif

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 04:50 AM

The Wizard of Oz is a fun theme for a Pinball table. smile.gif

BTW, IcePagoda made a Wizard of Oz themed VP table back in 2004, it's a pretty nice original table. I think the table was released at the old shivasite . wink.gif

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 09:14 AM

Update time!
I completed the table by getting rid of every single ugly gray wall! I finally figured out, real tables don't have giant blocks of gray in them! THey have posts and rubbers and rails and plastics! So, I finished the job. Everything is now nice and realistic, with plastics, posts, and rails.

I also made the targets into real targets (the colors may change though). And they "bounce" when you hit them. I also adjusted a few things to make it play better, like moving the bumpers around a bit, and adding some other little things.

Anything else left that makes it just not look too real? Overall suggestions? Of course, ignoring that giant gray wall in the upper right corner (it's probably going to have an image on it or something, or I might get rid of it). And like Joe suggested I will be adding a "toy" where all the ramps meet, somehow relating to Wizard of Oz. smile.gif

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 03:20 AM

Alright, the Multiball has been mostly programmed, and the lock lane has been redesigned. It now brings the balls around behind the left ramp into a holding place, then releases them through a gate into the left orbit. I did a couple of things like made the Yellow Brick Road and such. The targets in front of the lock lane change from being the Scarecrow, to the Tinman, and finally the Lion when the third ball is locked. After knocking down the last Lion target, multiball commences with all shots lit for jackpots. Get all of them to light the super jackpot, back at the lock. During multiball, you can lock one or two balls for 20 seconds to enable double or triple scoring!

Still lots to do, but so far it's looking pretty good. Once again, I ask for your suggestions and feedback! Ideas?

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:42 PM

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 10:52 AM

Does anyone want to do me a huuuuge favor and help me out with a bit of graphic design? In the area in the upper right where that big gray ugly block is, I want a "toy" of Glinda, the good witch. Like a Kenny from South Park, except she's not going to fall down or anything. I've tried for hours trying to get images and stuff, and it all jsut looks realllllly bad. Anyone wanna help me out? smile.gif

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 11:34 AM

Give me a few minutes and I'll make a picture for you and some instructions. I guess something similar to my aliens in AFM should be ok?

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 12:12 PM

Ok, here you have a picture of Glinda (a picture of a doll I found in the internet), a table with two ways you may add the picture to the table. I prefer using a wall or a ramp since I can move it or rezise it at will. A reel or decal should work too, but then you have to add a wall so the ball looks like it is going under, and I think it is too much work.

You may import the bmp picture in your table, using black as the transparent color. and then copy/paste either the wall or the ramp from the example table.
The image of the left, in the example, is a ramp and the one on the right is a wall. You'll see that the sides of the walls us to be a little darker. A ramp donæt get shadowed so it is always as bright at the original picture.

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 05:56 PM

Don't forget that you can make a copy of any wall paste it under the existing one then just change the height of it to let's say one wall has a top height of 50 and a bottom height of 45 (use your top color here) then the one under it can have a height of 30 and 25 (use a gray or metal surface color on this one) so it looks like you have a lower metal surface with an upper plastic. I do this on all my pins so there are no ugly solid walls anywhere just like the return lanes have. a few screws or posts and you'r done

oh, btw, Whatever happened to that dragon pin?

Like this easy slingshot wall with another one just under it so it's not a solid wall anymore.

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 10:04 AM

Thanks a lot, JP! Those will definitely come in handy!
Faralos, I already have gotten rid of all the ugly gray walls. Everything on the table is either a metal rail, plastic, post, or rubber smile.gif

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 12:50 AM

Cool. I am making one based on Wicked (novel/musical).

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 01:34 AM

what? no tornado? isn't that the main theme in the Wizard of oz? or how about Emerald City somewhere. Is it also possible to put glinda into a bubble of some sort since that is how she appears too much I know but hey you did ask and don't forget Toto!!
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Posted 17 January 2010 - 03:42 AM

QUOTE (jpsalas @ Jan 9 2010, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, here you have a picture of Glinda (a picture of a doll I found in the internet), a table with two ways you may add the picture to the table. I prefer using a wall or a ramp since I can move it or rezise it at will. A reel or decal should work too, but then you have to add a wall so the ball looks like it is going under, and I think it is too much work.

You may import the bmp picture in your table, using black as the transparent color. and then copy/paste either the wall or the ramp from the example table.
The image of the left, in the example, is a ramp and the one on the right is a wall. You'll see that the sides of the walls us to be a little darker. A ramp donæt get shadowed so it is always as bright at the original picture.

Good luck with the table!
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Sorry for my intrusion here. blush.gif But as I have the same problem ...So Let's go...
JP, I am also venturing to make my first original table. I'm taking a beating from the script. But Mr Wizards Hat volunteered to help me with script. Well, my doubts are also about graphs too. I can't do what you did above, without making the picture be distorted or appear only in half. I have a picture for the apron and I can not fit the proper size. The same thing on top of slingshots or any surface that I wanna to put a picture. I can't get to put pictures on the right size. Is there an easy way to do this? A step by step?

Here is my WIP. rolleyes.gif As well a pinball machine, I also like the old arcade games. Mainly Shumps! I lived in the decade of pinballs and arcades between the 70s and 80s. I have a real one upright arcade machine at home. And I decided to do something in VP like a tribute to a shump game... 1942 arcade (not my favorite). My favorite is xevious from namco and then galaga. One day when I get more experience in the construction of tables I will do another tribute or I'll think in something completely new, or being more daring ... a recreation of a table. smile.gif

I accept suggestions for improvement of the table wink.gif
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Posted 17 January 2010 - 06:03 AM

For image placements on plastics etc export the tables blueprint and load it up in your preferred graphics program and then align the image you want to use to fit.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 07:46 AM

QUOTE (Liteuser @ Dec 28 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW, IcePagoda made a Wizard of Oz themed VP table back in 2004, it's a pretty nice original table. I think the table was released at the old shivasite . wink.gif


I wish I still had it... it might've been some help. mellow.gif

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE (rdeejay @ Jan 17 2010, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For image placements on plastics etc export the tables blueprint and load it up in your preferred graphics program and then align the image you want to use to fit.



Hi Mr Rdeejay! Your Fish Tales is getting beautiful!!! tup.gif

But to the subject ... I did it you mention... I used the blueprint ... I exported the entire table image to a file .bmp. I opened this image in photoshop. I put the picture for apron on this picture "blueprint". Then here, I don't know what to do .... the image was to the background. I must be doing something wrong or simply forgetting something. Do you have a step by step how to do this? Or an custom example?

Very very Good Luck with your FT table! Greeeeeat job! I intend to play it a lot when ready! wink.gif

Thank you very much! smile.gif
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Edited by billyrjse, 17 January 2010 - 12:56 PM.


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