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[kalavera]

File Name: Contact (Williams 1978)

File Submitter: kalavera

File Submitted: 08 Sep 2018

File Category: VPX/VPinMAME Recreations

Author(s): Kalavera
Manufacturer: Williams
Year: 1978
ROM: Link to ROM
Permission to MOD?: Yes, without approval

Thanks to all those who helped to make this table in VP8 and VP9 Destruk - Kristian - Dboyrecords, I hope not to forget anyone. especially thanks to 32Assassins who is always there to help when it is most needed, you are my savior, thanks also to all the people who helped in any way to finish this table, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
If they find errors (sure there are), let me know and within my possibilities I will solve them.

Click here to download this file

[giovanni1966]

Thx for the nice table.

 

I have no sound. The rom ist in the correct folder. I ve deleted the nvram before start. What could be the reason?

 

> found it on pinballuniverse

 

Greetings

 

Jan

Edited by giovanni1966, 09 September 2018 - 05:27 AM.

[kiwi]

Thx for the nice table.

 

I have no sound. The rom ist in the correct folder. I ve deleted the nvram before start. What could be the reason?

 

> found it on pinballuniverse

 

Greetings

 

Jan

I downloaded the ROM from a Mame site (planetemu.net), and bypassed the CRC error from the VPM setup.

 
Thanks Kalavera, I can not wait to try the table.

[GCS]

The ball gets stuck between the left and center bumper when released from the top middle lock.

[kalavera]

The ball gets stuck between the left and center bumper when released from the top middle lock.

Thank for advice
For all have problem with sound, Better rom in the other site

Edited by kalavera, 09 September 2018 - 02:10 PM.

[Mustang1961]

 

I downloaded the ROM from a Mame site (planetemu.net), and bypassed the CRC error from the VPM setup.

 
Thanks Kalavera, I can not wait to try the table.

 

 

Thank you for the table, thank you for the hint. I had no CRC error. I tried also the roms on IPDB, but both there did not work.

[kalavera]

The ball gets stuck between the left and center bumper when released from the top middle lock.

I can not reproduce this error, could I upload a capture to see where it happens?

[GCS]

https://www.dropbox..../video.mp4?dl=0

 

I left the pinball running and the loop repeated.

 

[Thalamus]

In VP it is really important to add just a tad of randomization to objects.
The reason is that it is based on math and the math will be the same, thus patterns repeat if there isn't any randomization added.
We're not talking about HUGE amounts - in the real world neither a kick or a bumper will output 100% exactly the same amount of force each time.
Very close, but not 100%.

[Mustang1961]

After I was unable to change the number of balls (->5) according to ta2686's guide, I took the other way: Disco Fever is a System 3 table as well, so I compared the data format of the nv rams - the same. My Disco Fever is set to 5 ball game operation. Now I renamed the nvram ... and Contact is playing 5 ball.

 

here you are   cntct_l1.zip   234bytes   35 downloads

 

enjoy 5 balls!

[kalavera]

https://www.dropbox..../video.mp4?dl=0

 

I left the pinball running and the loop repeated.

 

Does that happen to you all the time? This does not happen to me, the hit is more random, in fact reviewing videos try to emulate the exit angle of the ball and if it is fixed it is quite real.

After I was unable to change the number of balls (->5) according to ta2686's guide, I took the other way: Disco Fever is a System 3 table as well, so I compared the data format of the nv rams - the same. My Disco Fever is set to 5 ball game operation. Now I renamed the nvram ... and Contact is playing 5 ball.

 

here you are  cntct_l1.zip

 

enjoy 5 balls!

Excellent Mustang! thank you very much for this

[Mustang1961]

sorry I have a new issue. I do not know if is the table or what elses (but other vpx tables does not show this effect). When I load the table via PinballX the plunger does not release. Hitting "Enter" pulls the plunger to full stroke regardless releasing the button or not. Retriggering starts the pull- sound again. The game works properly when I bypass pinballX. Does anyone has an idea????

Edited by Mustang1961, 11 September 2018 - 01:08 PM.

[GCS]

The loop repeats all the time. If you drag the plunger to a specific point - the forth orange triangle (from the top) - and release, the ball will go into the top middle lock. Then the loop starts... Last time i left the loop repeat about 50 times before nudging the table.

[Mustang1961]

I found another contradiction (if it is one?) the game is using the "S6.vbs", however the game of System 3 type. Can this be part of the reason with the sound and my new plunger- thing???

Edited by Mustang1961, 11 September 2018 - 03:45 PM.

[Thalamus]

The rom works perfectly here Mustang. You just have to follow the PM I sent you to get a "working" rom. It's over at the site we're not supposed to talk about.

 

@GCS : It is weird that you report the kicker and the bumper shooting in a loop. The stuff I mention above isn't addressed to this table specifically, its just simply advisable to apply to any game. I have however not seen what you are reporting so I find that rather odd.

Edited by Thalamus, 11 September 2018 - 03:55 PM.

[Pin-Pete]

After I was unable to change the number of balls (->5) according to ta2686's guide, I took the other way: Disco Fever is a System 3 table as well, so I compared the data format of the nv rams - the same. My Disco Fever is set to 5 ball game operation. Now I renamed the nvram ... and Contact is playing 5 ball.

 

here you are  cntct_l1.zip

 

enjoy 5 balls!

Doesn't work for me. Says "machine terminated before installed".

[Mustang1961]

Hi Pin- Pete, have you unzipped the file and put in the nvram- folder?

The rom works perfectly here Mustang. You just have to follow the PM I sent you to get a "working" rom. It's over at the site we're not supposed to talk about.

 

Yes, thank you for your PM, I have the full sound and the game is playing ok - but not via PinballX. There the plunger does not be released.

Edited by Mustang1961, 11 September 2018 - 05:26 PM.

[Thalamus]

Hmm. That sounds a bit weird Mustang. Try moving ' If vpmKeyUp(KeyCode) Then Exit Sub' one line down so it comes after the plunger key in the Sub table1_KeyUp(ByVal Keycode). Just guessing now.

Edited by Thalamus, 11 September 2018 - 09:26 PM.

[Mustang1961]

Hmm. That sounds a bit weird Mustang. Try moving ' If vpmKeyUp(KeyCode) Then Exit Sub' one line down so it comes after the plunger key in the Sub table1_KeyUp(ByVal Keycode). Just guessing now.

I am 100% with you ... sounds crazy. BUT you hint hit the nail on its head. Please tell me, why does the line missmatch does not effect the game when it is played directly from the emulator? .... questions over questions.

 

But a big THANK YOU to you and my recommendation to kalavera to correct this bug in order to avoid other pinball enthusiasts running into this loop.

[Thalamus]

That's the thing. I can't explain why there is a difference. I just know that I would not start a sub with a exit check