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[pinuck]

Jacks Open WS



Version: 1.0.0
Category: VP 9.x Recreations

Author(s): pinuck

Description:
Here's the widescreen version.

Jacks Open.
This table represents several firsts:

• The first pinball machine I ever saw or played - in the backroom of a small-town sub shop, circa 1979.
• The number one rated EM currently on IPDB
• Its first appearance in VP
• My first VP solo build.

A quick rundown on the rules:

• Hit drop targets to complete the modes (lit card hands) and advance to Special
• Completing top 4 rollovers advances to next mode
• Each completed top rollover will light lower playfield lanes for higher scoring as well as increasing value of drop targets, but these reset when all four are complete, and it starts again

High score entry on the post-it is like a standard WPC style (flippers, start button). Score file is in VP/Users

finally a big thanks to all who helped out:

• Noah for taking photo and video reference for me
• Popotte, Greywolf, eburgess4 for supplying manual and clarifying rules
• everyone who's code i learned and borrowed from: jpsalas, Wizards_Hat, unclewilly, rosve, Kruge99
• And for testing: Kruge99, rosve, DedRok_V, Sabbat

Enjoy!


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Submitted by pinuck, on May 28 2011, 05:29 PM

[Sabbat]

Hell yea, thank you!!

[kruge99]

Man O' Man!!! this turned out good!


Best Regards,
Todd.

[speed24]

Great pin Pinuck . I hope you build some more of these pins. Thanks !!!!

[rob046]

Thanks, but can you provide a 4:3 version for those of us on 4:3 or 16:10 monitors?
Or at least provide the needed info to convert it to 4:3. Info on a 16:10 conversion would be a nice bonus as well.
Otherwise anybody on 4:3, 16:10, or laptop is gonna have a distorted table. & that is a lot of people. I'm all for WS tables, but again lets remember that VP does not have proper WS support, its just a hack.

That combined with the fact that many people don't have 16:9 monitors should encourage authors to release in 4:3, then provide the info on how to convert to WS (hopefully 16:9 & 16:10) for those who can & want to. Keep in mind that even if you provide the info, there are a lot of people who play tables but don't hang out on the forums who may not get the info, so if you insist on releasing WS only, then at least provide the info clearly in the table info so that at least most people will find it.
I can't wait for the day where hopefully VP can deal with WS or non WS just like FP does. & if/when that does happen, all these WS only releases probably are gonna need readjusted or modded.

Edited by rob046, 28 May 2011 - 10:23 PM.

[ta2686]

Nicely done for your first table. Congrats! Plays very well on my laptop.

[pinuck]

Thanks, but can you provide a 4:3 version for those of us on 4:3 or 16:10 monitors?
Or at least provide the needed info to convert it to 4:3. Info on a 16:10 conversion would be a nice bonus as well.

The 4:3 version will take some time, since i haven't even started it, whereas the WS version was fairly far along by the time I finished the FS.

as far as 16:10 vs 16:9, someone else is gonna have to figure that out. Personally I think the scaling difference is negligible, but to each their own.

My only desire in making this table was to have a 2-screen FS version for my cab. When i finish the 4:3 version, i will have created 3 complete versions that I have no use for - so making a 16:10 on top of that is pretty much out of the question - only so many lawns I'm willing to mow (to paraphrase Bob)

cheers,
pinuck.

[FDSystems]

Thank you Pinuck & Team.
Dl now, comments later!

[rob046]

Thanks, but can you provide a 4:3 version for those of us on 4:3 or 16:10 monitors?
Or at least provide the needed info to convert it to 4:3. Info on a 16:10 conversion would be a nice bonus as well.

The 4:3 version will take some time, since i haven't even started it, whereas the WS version was fairly far along by the time I finished the FS.

as far as 16:10 vs 16:9, someone else is gonna have to figure that out. Personally I think the scaling difference is negligible, but to each their own.

My only desire in making this table was to have a 2-screen FS version for my cab. When i finish the 4:3 version, i will have created 3 complete versions that I have no use for - so making a 16:10 on top of that is pretty much out of the question - only so many lawns I'm willing to mow (to paraphrase Bob)

cheers,
pinuck.

First of all thanks again for the table & I do appreciate your work in multiple versions. It didn't sound like you were gonna do a 4:3, which is why I posted what I did. I apologize for that, its just that WS only seems to be a trend lately, so I was assuming you were doing the same.

I don't ask for a 16:10 version. Just saying it would be nice if you could provide the info that gets the table to properly scale at 16:10 if that is easy enough to do. It is probably just changing the X scale number, right? Otherwise I'm happy just having the 4:3 version, that is the most important one as it is the only version guaranteed to render properly for everybody.
I most definitely see the difference when a 16:9 is stretched to 16:10, I can show some good examples of what areas are most affected. Especially with rounded objects, I notice it most looking at the bumpers which render too tall. My monitor can't maintain aspect ratio for 1920x1080, but even for those who can, that really isn't any better than stretching since you'll get black bars on top & bottom of screen & lose screen height which is so important for desktop users.

If you only have use for the FS version, then I'd say to only release a 4:3 version on top of that. I think the WS version is the extra one you could scrap. Release 4:3 & save yourself time. Just provide WS conversion info in table info if you feel like it, but WS is a luxury, not needed, & IMHO doesn't bring much to the table to make it worth the hassle it can bring.
Hey, if I had things my way authors would only have to make 1 version, just 4:3 like the old days. & if you don't like making 3 versions of a table, clearly scrap the WS one.

[FDSystems]

Great job on a great table by one more great author!
Beside, & this is definitely a big +, imho, it plays great on my laptop!

Edited by 1234fd, 28 May 2011 - 11:50 PM.

[Bob5453]

Thanks Pinuck! It plays great and it looks great in widescreen!

Why anyone wouldn't have a WS monitor in today's world is sort of mindbogglingly. I think even Faralos has 3 of them. The only place you can find a 4x3 monitor today is in a trash dumpster.

[Ezepov]

Thanks! Your EMs the best!!!
Don't waste your time on various versions. I think two versions enough- FS (or B2S) and 4:3 (or WS). Make new tables. Please.

[Sabbat]

Thanks Pinuck! It plays great and it looks great in widescreen!

Why anyone wouldn't have a WS monitor in today's world is sort of mindbogglingly.The only place you can find a 4x3 monitor today is in a trash dumpster.

agreed.


This table is just awesome Pinuck!! Thank you for all your hard work and if you keep popping tables like Sinbad and JO then we are all in for a very exciting year. Easily put this table into my favorites category on VPman, thank you again!!!

[ta2686]

Why anyone wouldn't have a WS monitor in today's world is sort of mindbogglingly. I think even Faralos has 3 of them. The only place you can find a 4x3 monitor today is in a trash dumpster.

Some of us, for verious reasons, can't use a WS monitor, but require the use of a 4:3 monitor. In my case, as an example, I have difficulty viewing anything on a WS monitor. Even on my laptop, which has a 16:9 screen, I have a lot of trouble seeing what is displayed on the screen. On my desktop, however, I still have an old 4:3 CRT and I have NO trouble whatsoever seeing anything displayed on that. (That is mainly because of my vision problems if you must know)

[GSGregg]

The only place you can find a 4x3 monitor today is in a trash dumpster.

"Hello! Police? There's a guy looking in my gameroom window!"

[DedRok_V]

I'm lucky as the TV that I use can zoom up to 16:9 if it's a wide screen table.
Have to use it as a 4:3 cause thats the res that it likes.

As far as Pinucks tables go,
I think we have found our Gottlieb table builder.

Nice work John

[Rawd]

Why anyone wouldn't have a WS monitor in today's world is sort of mindbogglingly. I think even Faralos has 3 of them. The only place you can find a 4x3 monitor today is in a trash dumpster.

Some of us, for verious reasons, can't use a WS monitor, but require the use of a 4:3 monitor. In my case, as an example, I have difficulty viewing anything on a WS monitor. Even on my laptop, which has a 16:9 screen, I have a lot of trouble seeing what is displayed on the screen. On my desktop, however, I still have an old 4:3 CRT and I have NO trouble whatsoever seeing anything displayed on that. (That is mainly because of my vision problems if you must know)

You must have something set wrong (resolution, color, font)... or maybe you have only used problem monitors? I have never heard someone say that they can't see what is on a widescreen monitor before. Is it blurry?

[ta2686]

Why anyone wouldn't have a WS monitor in today's world is sort of mindbogglingly. I think even Faralos has 3 of them. The only place you can find a 4x3 monitor today is in a trash dumpster.

Some of us, for verious reasons, can't use a WS monitor, but require the use of a 4:3 monitor. In my case, as an example, I have difficulty viewing anything on a WS monitor. Even on my laptop, which has a 16:9 screen, I have a lot of trouble seeing what is displayed on the screen. On my desktop, however, I still have an old 4:3 CRT and I have NO trouble whatsoever seeing anything displayed on that. (That is mainly because of my vision problems if you must know)

You must have something set wrong (resolution, color, font)... or maybe you have only used problem monitors? I have never heard someone say that they can't see what is on a widescreen monitor before. Is it blurry?

The problem is not with the monitor, The problem is physical. With my limited vision I have trouble seeing anything on a wide screen monitor.

[Sabbat]

i wish all tables played like this.

[Duglis]

Just curious why the table can't load up with vp 8.1..i was going to tinker and try to make it work with that.

-Doug