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#281 flupper1

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:48 AM

One of the things on my to do list is to add several LUT files to Totan, since the day night slider has not much (or the desired) effect on Totan. This is due to the heavy use of prerendered textures. You all could help me by creating your favorite LUT. For those of you who do not know what a LUT does, this is the short version:

After everything is rendered in VPX, the LUT file is used to transform the rendered color of every pixel into a another color, depending on a look-up table (which is the LUT file). If the look-up table is neutral, every color will be transformed from one RGB value to the exact same RGB value. In the default table of VPX there is such a file called "ColorGradeLUT256x16_1to1.png". If extra contrast is applied on this LUT file (for instance in photoshop), and the resulting file is used in VPX, then the output on the screen of VPX will also have more contrast.

So, how is here you can help me:

 

1. Download these three images:

cabinetlut1on10_t.jpg

 

desktoplut1on1_t.jpg

 

colorgradelut256x16_1to1_t.png

 

(last one is the same as the file in the VPX default table)

 

2. Open the cabinet and/or the desktop screenshot file in your favorite photo editing program (like photoshop or GIMP). Experiment with changing brightness, contrast, saturation and so on on these images, until it looks like you want it on either your desktop screen and/or your cabinet. In photoshop you can do this by adding layers with effects on top of the image. It is important to know which changes you have done. Also be aware that what looks good during the day, can look strange in the evening/night.

 

3. When you are happy with these changes on the screenshots, apply the exact same changes on the LUT file (the png one). So if you have added a layer which increases the contrast on the screenshot, apply the exact same contrast change on the png file. Save this png file to a new name and post the new png in this thread with the following information:

- desktop or cabinet

- brand and type of screen (like samsung and its type number, diameter)

- for daytime or nighttime

- a short summary what type of changes you applied on the LUT

 

Depending on how many of you create new LUT's, I will include some or all of them in the final release.



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Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:35 AM

I am definitely doing this. Will try this afternoon (Spain time)  :otvclap:


Edited by Mandolin, 09 August 2019 - 11:35 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 02:30 PM

Super interesting, Flupper, didn't know that technique, yet.

 

Will definitely try tonight. I'll compare yours and my result by setting the images left half/right half as desktop wallpaper, so I can compare them in the cab directly.


Edited by vogliadicane, 09 August 2019 - 02:30 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 04:16 PM

I have a question, is this LUT sensitive to "hue" adjustment layer in Photoshop? If so, overall color can be affected. I mean, I love the current color scheme, but it would be crazy if you can change the color scheme of every table so easily.


Edited by Mandolin, 09 August 2019 - 04:18 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 04:28 PM

I have a question, is this LUT sensitive to "hue" adjustment layer in Photoshop? If so, overall color can be affected. I mean, I love the current color scheme, but it would be crazy if you can change the color scheme of every table so easily.

Yes, I think so. Just try it on any table...  :good:



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Posted 09 August 2019 - 04:35 PM

A 3D backdrop, incredible !!!!

 

I'm gonna be out of work ;)

 

Will there be lights in the eyes of genius ?

 

And is it possible to add a lamp on the lower right side of the table ?


 signature_14012021.jpg         DIRECT LINK TO MY TABLES http://www.vpforums....loads&mid=30858    

                                               LINK TO MY 204 BACKDROPS : Design Resources/ Main Resources/Table Templates/Table Resources/Backdrops for VPX Tables (DT 16/9)  2.0 


#287 flupper1

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 04:41 PM

A 3D backdrop, incredible !!!!

 

I'm gonna be out of work ;)

 

Will there be lights in the eyes of genius ?

 

And is it possible to add a lamp on the lower right side of the table ?

In the genie in the table, yes, there are lights. Not in the backdrop, is that what you are asking?

Why would you want a lamp in the table on the lower right side?



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Posted 09 August 2019 - 05:04 PM

Here's a quick one I tried at work with my color calibrated monitor. Didn't see it in my cab but gave it a shot anyway. I wanted to do a cave of wonders style LUT so i pushed the contrast and orange/purple's around with mostly curves.
On the left or original, middle is the color move, and right is a way toned down night mode version so you dont burn your retinas out.
 
caveofwonderspallettea.jpg
 
 
Here the regular LUT:
caveofwonderslut.png
 
 
and the night mode LUT:
caveofwondersnightlut.png


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 05:05 PM

I just thought it would be fun to have lights in the eyes of the genius on the backdrop

 

And there's a little place for a 3D lamp on the right

 

But it's just something I'd like to see as a desktop user

 

Anyway, everybody will look at every detail of your fantastic table when playing it, so, forget it !


Edited by batch, 09 August 2019 - 05:07 PM.

 signature_14012021.jpg         DIRECT LINK TO MY TABLES http://www.vpforums....loads&mid=30858    

                                               LINK TO MY 204 BACKDROPS : Design Resources/ Main Resources/Table Templates/Table Resources/Backdrops for VPX Tables (DT 16/9)  2.0 


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 05:16 PM

Anybody has tested the table on VPX VR? Lighting opinion?

Thanks a lot.

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 05:20 PM

Ok here is mine, I call it Full Night mode

 

d3ruB2B.jpg

 

It may look agressive, but you must imagine it in the cabinet. The key is that blacks are not full blacks but dark grays, that way is closer to reality. Basically changed in a "levels" adjustmen layer, with another layer of "vibrance".

 

Tried in a LG, 43 inches 1080p, I will update with the model.

 

eEsb7Kv.png

 

 

Little reference

 

talesofarabiannightsledpinball(3)_727_de


Edited by Mandolin, 09 August 2019 - 05:23 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 06:28 PM

reshade can be an interesting alternative and works very well with vpx
 
mini_19080909093945630.jpg
 
c0.jpg
for those who like to manipulate the special effects.
here is the list :
d0.jpg
all configurable and stackable
 
default value (exept 1 layer) 
 the combinations are infinite.
Totan 1.3.0 vpx
8.jpg
9.jpg
 
and little tutorial for luts applicable to reshade :
 
and with a little bloom :
6.jpg

Edited by fripounet, 12 August 2019 - 08:02 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 07:21 PM

Cool results from others so far. So here are mine:

 

My aim was to make it look as real in a very dark ambience (mine)

 

Specs:

- Cabinet

- Samsung TV 43'

- nighttime (definitely)

 

What I did:

 

- added a layer above of half of Flupper's image

- filled it black

- Set Layer Style "Soft Light"

- played around with "Opacity"

- made it a desktop wallpaper

- came to the conclusion, that in my cab 80% are perfect.

 

See here:

 

My Photoshop adjustments:

 

totanfluppersoftlight80%25_screenie_smal

 

Live in the the cab:

 

wp_20190809_19_33_51_pro%5B1%5D.jpg

 

link to my LUT files:

 

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Alb15rCwgHxXkqQ9x1L4PQH4M-PGQQ?e=S27TCp


Edited by vogliadicane, 09 August 2019 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 09:08 PM

Here is the update, a video of some gameplay and the flashershow at the end:

https://youtu.be/yVO2KY-CF2g

 

All flashers are now working. Rothbauerw did a lot of work on scripting, sounds and physics tweaks. My to do list is shrinking but still substantial, before somebody asks: I don't do ETA's.

 

AMAZING!



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Posted 09 August 2019 - 09:33 PM

Great eyes, Mando and Vogli! Thanks for sharing. 



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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:05 PM

This is my first try for a night picture with two variants as _1 and _2. I tried the challenge and hope it is for me normally only looking to dB2S and not to overdosed skilled in the gimp usage a good result.

 

Attached File  colorgradelut256x16_1to1_1.png   8.61KB   13 downloads

 

Attached File  colorgradelut256x16_1to1_2.png   10.09KB   12 downloads

 

Attached File  _1.jpg   356.79KB   14 downloads

 

Attached File  _2.jpg   356.93KB   12 downloads

 

Attached File  cabinetlut1on10_1.jpg   211.99KB   14 downloads

 

Attached File  cabinetlut1on10_2.jpg   212.17KB   13 downloads

 

Attached File  desktoplut1on1_1.jpg   169.01KB   13 downloads

 

Attached File  desktoplut1on1_2.jpg   169.35KB   13 downloads

 

I applied the changes that were done with gimp as step 1 (First change) and a following step that was done after step 1 as step 2 (Second change after the first change).

 

Attached File  First change.PNG   15.18KB   14 downloads

 

Attached File  Second change after the first change.PNG   22.12KB   16 downloads

 

Usage:

 

Cabinet

 

Samsung TV 46'

 

night



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Posted 10 August 2019 - 07:15 AM

Anybody has tested the table on VPX VR? Lighting opinion?

Thanks a lot.


No not yet, I do have a htc vive since a couple weeks, but did not get around to installing it.

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Posted 10 August 2019 - 12:54 PM

Thanks a lot.

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 09:08 AM

One of the things on my to do list is to add several LUT files to Totan, since the day night slider has not much (or the desired) effect on Totan. This is due to the heavy use of prerendered textures. You all could help me by creating your favorite LUT. For those of you who do not know what a LUT does, this is the short version:

After everything is rendered in VPX, the LUT file is used to transform the rendered color of every pixel into a another color, depending on a look-up table (which is the LUT file). If the look-up table is neutral, every color will be transformed from one RGB value to the exact same RGB value. In the default table of VPX there is such a file called "ColorGradeLUT256x16_1to1.png". If extra contrast is applied on this LUT file (for instance in photoshop), and the resulting file is used in VPX, then the output on the screen of VPX will also have more contrast.

So, how is here you can help me:

 

1. Download these three images:

 

(last one is the same as the file in the VPX default table)

 

2. Open the cabinet and/or the desktop screenshot file in your favorite photo editing program (like photoshop or GIMP). Experiment with changing brightness, contrast, saturation and so on on these images, until it looks like you want it on either your desktop screen and/or your cabinet. In photoshop you can do this by adding layers with effects on top of the image. It is important to know which changes you have done. Also be aware that what looks good during the day, can look strange in the evening/night.

 

3. When you are happy with these changes on the screenshots, apply the exact same changes on the LUT file (the png one).

 

Small addon to the great explanation:

 

One can also optionally just copy the default LUT file into the image itself that one changes, so that one does not need to remember all steps that one did to the original image. After all changes happened, simply select/extract the LUT again and paste into a new image.



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Posted 12 August 2019 - 10:18 AM

I love you all a-lut.


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