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#41 Nemo

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 04:49 AM

Yes the sides are not even, but you won't notice it whilst playing, so it's no problem.

I do think that a hinged playfield is the way to go, it's super handy !


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 11:01 AM

Could you post a photo (from the top) where you can see the playfield?

Just find some reasons not to decase the stuff ;)



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Posted 10 April 2016 - 10:20 AM

I even didn't bother taping the brand's name off, it just looks good ! But i did stick mirror foil

against the sides, gives it more depth....

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Had to use the flash otherwise you couldn't tell where the bezel actually was ....

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And here the slightly wider lower bezel, when dark the logo is not noticeable...

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Now with this thin bezel tv's the strength of the panel is in the framing, so decasing it would

seriously weaken the panel's structure and makes it extremely flexible, it could easily damage

the screen. Luckily this Pany fitts like a glove in a system 11 cab.


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Posted 10 April 2016 - 03:42 PM

Man that does fit in there like a glove!

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Posted 10 April 2016 - 07:46 PM

Very good fit! Nice idea of the mirror foil.
My screen has in the middle (bottom) a unit for the infrared and buttons. So i'm going to decase the damn thing ;)

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 02:22 PM

I've been bad  :shutup:  . . . . . . just had to have it :dblthumb:

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This is a "super" M-VA panel, and being a vertical alignment panel it has vivid color and reasonable timings.

I'm not that sensible about ghosting, yes it's there but i don't see it in gamplay, this panel is well suited for

pinball (not to mention the price....€ 549 (July 2016)) It does 4k @ 60 Hz via displayport.

 

If you thought the panasonic was a tight fit, the iiyama is even tighter, had to take out the frontbutton pcb but

left the IR eye as this monitor comes with a handy remote ! Being a PC monitor it powers up with the pc so

no need for hotelmode.

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Just gorgeous picture, it is sooooo sharp and detailed !

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Above is the newly released BK2K, just stunning in 4K........

I can't get over the transformation pins make going the 4K route, it's absolute pinball bliss !

And with VPX the talented authors are using more and more highres content, the future looks bright !


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Posted 02 July 2016 - 05:01 PM

Very nice improvement!

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 04:32 AM

Some comments on 4K:

 

1st, well you can't go back to 1080p......4k is an absolute gamechanger, it is soooooo good, table's just pop !

 

Second, my GTX 970 copes quite well with this high resolution and with all eye-candy turned on, there is some

microstutter but it's not the card it's the panel.

 

That said, i'm going to upgrade the panel to a native 120/144Hz@4K panel as those get available in 2017, 2018 , 2019  :tapping: , also

will upgrade to a GTX1070 , 1080Ti (i need displayport 1.3/4), just because i've got other plans for the 970 (yes my race-sim-itch is back).


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 06:10 PM

Today whilst playing the new vpx Roadshow my creative speakerset died, i guess the bulldozer rumble was just too much  :rolleyes: for that little sub.

So no better excuse than this to install something more beefier like a 120 watt passive Canton subwoofer  :lusty:  mwoahahaha this thing is monstrous !

Paired it with a nice Pioneer vintage 80's amplifier, and although i had to mount the amp underneath the cab it still looks nice and it makes the volume knob

very accessible, also handy is the easy to switch loudness/bass setting for nightmode.

 

Talk about feedback baby, this is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much but sooooooooo enjoyable, just LOVE that pumping bass !

 

This before cable cleanup and some general dusting, went through it with the vacuum cleaner...   

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 05:49 PM

Ohhh my, another update ! Will this thing EVER be done ?  :hmm:  :P

 

Some hints from fellow vpinner RustyCardores about his Poor Man's DOF got me excited. I already have flashercap's 

lit with a very cheap Chinese sound activated controller, but his idea was to use a second audiodevice combined with 

bass shakers aka exciters. Vp has that option for two audiocontrollers build in, so all "mechanical" sounds can be played

through a second audio device. So instead of speakers i have hooked up a pair of 25 watt exciters to an amplifier that is

driven from a cheap USB audiocontroller. I placed the exciters on each side of the cab near to the flipper buttons, and i

must say: WHAT AN EFFECT ! You can feel every bump, droptarget, kicker, and such, it's just great !

So now with that enormous subwoofer AND these exciters it's one moving and shaking machine allright ! 

 

Still some tinkering to do with soundlevels & panning in the scripts, and i maybe alter the position of the exciters a bit, but

for close to €75 this is ONE HELL OF AN IMPROVEMENT.

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 07:18 PM

First it's Poor Man's DOF and then I'll take over the WORLD!!! Mwahahahahaha!!!  (<- Evil laugh while stroking my cat)

 

Glad it worked for you Nemo, it certainly seems that people are getting great results from plywood cabs.  For those interested, the evolution of PMD is available here http://www.aussiearc...ctile-Feedback)  You do need to read it in full, as it follows the WIP of PMD and the final kit is somewhat different to first. There are a couple of options on amps and drivers etc.  


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 09:07 AM

Yes this system is very flexible in configuration hard/software wise and extremely easy to setup !

Got my exciters from here: https://www.soundimp...ategory&path=63

They have them all ! And located in the Netherlands, so for me it was next day delivery !

I'm extremely pleased with how it turned out, the feedback given is very good and @ such a low cost

it's a NO brainer. 

 

A few first observations though:

 

* I am getting a more beefier amp, this one has to be set almost at maximum volume with it's 20 watt rms

  ( well, the amp's specs are nowhere near 20 watt's, that's what you get with cheap Chinese crap).

 

* I will be exchanging the USB soundcard for a Soundblaster XiFi to get me more tone control.  


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 09:23 AM

Yes this system is very flexible in configuration hard/software wise and extremely easy to setup !
Got my exciters from here: https://www.soundimp...ategory&path=63
They have them all ! And located in the Netherlands, so for me it was next day delivery !
I'm extremely pleased with how it turned out, the feedback given is very good and @ such a low cost
it's a NO brainer. 
 
A few first observations though:
 
* I am getting a more beefier amp, this one has to be set almost at maximum volume with it's 20 watt rms
  ( well, the amp's specs are nowhere near 20 watt's, that's what you get with cheap Chinese crap).
 
* I will be exchanging the USB soundcard for a Soundblaster XiFi to get me more tone control.  

The amp I'm using has a separate sub output and volume control. This drives a third exciter I have in the middle of my timber lockdown. Having a sub exciter really allows some extra kick in the lows. Maybe an amp like this would do the trick?

Also my USB sound card didn't provide a lot of control, so I added a free equaliser app and it made heaps of difference. The link is back in the other thread.


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 11:42 AM

Hehehehe......waaaaay ahead of you  :dblthumb:  spend the whole morning altering the setup !

Basically an exciter turns a surface into a speaker, so in my case a form of ply (i think birch).

I initially mounted the units as close to the flipperbuttons as i could get them, but now i have moved

them smack bang in the middle of each side, they sound A-LOT better now !

I also installed an AV amp with separate sub out. I have been experimenting with a setup where there

are two units in front in a stereo setup and two way in the back of the cab as a mono sub, thus supplementing

the existing sub that's on the main audio unit.

So this morning i shifted things around in the cab and have one side done, ordered two additional exciters for the other side.

The beauty of this setup is that you basically have quadro tactile feedback and it's very easy to control via the amp's balance and

tone knobs with extra adjustments in the soundcards audiosettings.

I did in the end kept on using the USB sound card, it had some excellent sound settings available within the driver.

 

This is soooooo cool ! Back to the cab to play some more  :D  

 

<EDIT>  Oh, and i did on some table's a bit of tinkering with the volume/balance settings, also quite straightforward !


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 02:41 AM

Hey, Nemo. Can you give me some details on the exciters you used and where you ended up with placement? I love the idea of using for mechanical sounds.

 

I got a couple of 58 mm, but wondered if I should put a couple of smaller ones near the flipper buttons and use the larger near the back. I'm still planning my build, and wondered if the mechanical sounds can be assigned to channels: Left for left side mechanicals, right for right, etc.  I got a 5.1 sound card and started to imagine assigning mechanical sounds to the surround sound channels around the inside of the cabinet, right front, left front, right rear, left rear.

 

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:07 AM

Hey, Nemo. Can you give me some details on the exciters you used and where you ended up with placement? I love the idea of using for mechanical sounds.

 

I got a couple of 58 mm, but wondered if I should put a couple of smaller ones near the flipper buttons and use the larger near the back. I'm still planning my build, and wondered if the mechanical sounds can be assigned to channels: Left for left side mechanicals, right for right, etc.  I got a 5.1 sound card and started to imagine assigning mechanical sounds to the surround sound channels around the inside of the cabinet, right front, left front, right rear, left rear.

 

Thanks.

 

Mechanical sounds are assigned to channels in the script. So it's possible to have the flippers sound like they come from each of the flippers and plunger sound come only from the plunger etc.  (I've started releasing modified scripts on vpinball)

 

Someone is currently experimenting with a 5.1 amp and so far results are not that good, as there is no real way to send any particular sound to any one device.

 

So the way I have created the full control required is to use 2 amps (each with sub output) that feed from a splitter on the sound output... One amp runs the front L/R flipper exciters plus a lockdown exciter (on the sub output).  The other runs L/R rear exciters plus an audio sub.

 

Using two amps gives good balance control between front and back and when combined with the L/R control of the script, the directional effect is very good. 


Edited by RustyCardores, 02 March 2017 - 03:08 AM.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:22 AM

Awesome. Thanks.  I have two Lepai's on order with the sub channels, but from what you're saying I would need three if I use one to power the coaxial/sub for game sounds. 

 

What size exciters did you use where?


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:30 AM

Awesome. Thanks.  I have two Lepai's on order with the sub channels, but from what you're saying I would need three if I use one to power the coaxial/sub for game sounds. 

 

What size exciters did you use where?

 

If you want the full setup for tactile feedback you will need 2 amps for it.  Then your regular game (music/voice/rom) sounds run on a totally separate amp and speakers.

 

Follow the link in my sig below for the full list of parts that I used.  If you look through that forum thread you will see my system and exactly where things are placed. (Around page 21 from memory)


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 11:23 AM

Well, back to the audio store. I hope the two 25w 58mm's I got will work OK somewhere.  I'll need to block off an hour to read the full thread carefully, then hope I can do the software setup. But just the info I was looking for. 


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Posted 15 April 2017 - 08:23 AM

Fixed all pictures in this whole buildlog as Dropbox screwed me one over.......now all on Imgur (hope that one will last  :shutup:  )


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